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Re: “Talking the Business Side of Sports — The A to Z Podcast With Andre Knott and Zac Jackson

The fickleness that's big business in the pop culture of sports has played out with gymnast Gabby Douglas. The 2012 Associated Press Female Athlete of the Year due to her success, style and grace in the London Summer Games has been vilified on a daily basis in Rio; it shows what happens when the "social media" mob wants Cinderella and on the big stage is a great competitor who they determined has overstayed her welcome.

Posted by LakeErieSeaGulls on 08/17/2016 at 7:01 PM

Re: “The Origins and Evolution of the Cleveland Accent (Yes, You Have an Accent, Cleveland)

I grew up relatively closer to Cleveland than the Youngstown area, but since moving to Y-town I have definitely noticed an Eastern Ohio/Western PA dialect. The pronunciation nuances are subtle with influences of Appalachia and Southern Ohio, things like "steel" become "still" as in the Pittsburgh Stillers, and instead of "cool" it becomes "coal" or possibly "cole." The differences in word choice are more noticeable. Things like "buggy" instead of "shopping cart," "sweeper" instead of vacuum cleaner," or "day turn/night turn" rather than "day shift/night shift." I feel like my accent and word choice has been more based on what I heard on television, both local and national, where the phrasing and accents are more standardized, but maybe I'm suffering from some accent denial too. = )

5 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by Zack on 08/17/2016 at 6:10 PM

Re: “The Origins and Evolution of the Cleveland Accent (Yes, You Have an Accent, Cleveland)

I'm from the Alliance, Ohio, area, an interesting meeting point of the "Lake Erie accent" as I call it (or Cleveland Accent), Ohio Appalachian accent, and Midland accent or "flat English." When I moved to Columbus, I could hear the differences among the three accents as I've defined above. I also know of people who moved closer to Cleveland, picked up the accent, and then left the area and lost it. Great article!

8 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by NE Ohio Native on 08/17/2016 at 6:00 PM

Re: “Coastal Taco Improves Its Game, Slowly but Surely

Went once never again... 9 bucks for a shot glass sized margarita...

3 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by gk36 on 08/17/2016 at 5:12 PM

Re: “The Origins and Evolution of the Cleveland Accent (Yes, You Have an Accent, Cleveland)

There is a Sout Lur ane accent among steelworkers. I thought of it as Brooklynese. Heard it from Eat Tweah-nee Ate(E28th) to Eat Turdee Turd (E33rd) in South Lorain (a region unto itself)

9 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by Jim Pechaitis on 08/17/2016 at 4:19 PM

Re: “The Origins and Evolution of the Cleveland Accent (Yes, You Have an Accent, Cleveland)

All these folks in denial cryack me up. We all have a definite eyaccent, just eyask anyone from outside NEO and they'll confirm. Eyaccents aren't byad, thyat's just how we sound.

17 likes, 8 dislikes
Posted by thyat guy on 08/17/2016 at 3:03 PM

Re: “The Origins and Evolution of the Cleveland Accent (Yes, You Have an Accent, Cleveland)

Thanks for a great article! I think that only people who have traveled a lot and lived in other places for long periods get it. I lost my accent for a bit (thankfully!) but hear it slip back into my speech every so often. Makes me cringe. ;-)

9 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by Jeanne on 08/17/2016 at 2:27 PM

Re: “The Origins and Evolution of the Cleveland Accent (Yes, You Have an Accent, Cleveland)

Kee-yan-dee? Are you serious? I am a Clevelander, born and raised, and never in my fifty-two years have I heard anyone pronounce anything the way the author of this article insists we are pronouncing words. The only time I'll hear a "yeah" in anything is when someone actually says "yeah". We have some pretty hard, short vowels and pronounce our "r's" pretty hard, that much I've noticed. But the whole stick a "y" sound in where it doesn't belong? I think not.

16 likes, 15 dislikes
Posted by Kathleen Kelley-Ottobre on 08/17/2016 at 2:08 PM

Re: “The Origins and Evolution of the Cleveland Accent (Yes, You Have an Accent, Cleveland)

I've heard it, I've said it, but I definitely think it's more urban than suburban or rural. And it's definitely something that is reinforced with folks who are ESL (English as a second language) or multi-generational. Let's embrace it. In addition to the CAVS, Michael Symon, and all of our great CLE history, it's who we are.

5 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by Kathleen L on 08/17/2016 at 1:58 PM

Re: “The Origins and Evolution of the Cleveland Accent (Yes, You Have an Accent, Cleveland)

Clevelanders talk normal proper English everyone else has the accent.......

20 likes, 9 dislikes
Posted by gk36 on 08/17/2016 at 1:45 PM

Re: “The Origins and Evolution of the Cleveland Accent (Yes, You Have an Accent, Cleveland)

After 24 years here, people can still tell that I'm from Sha-CAW-go, Ill-ANNOY. I KNOW we said kee-an-dee and dee-add-ee ...we are what we are. When I was in sixth grade I took a dramatics class at a little theater and our diction coach used to yell at us about our Chicago accents. I always thought it was just a Jewish thing, until I moved to other states as an adult.

But Clevelanders (my wife is fifth generations) most definitely do NOT sound like Chicagoans. They don't sound like anything or anybody else. To me they sound "normal"...almost like radio and TV folks...unless they have ancestors and relatives from Southern Ahia. That's a whole different ballgame.

Gotta go get da kee-yat outta da ay-ell-ee...or my dee-add-ee ain't gonna gimme enny kee-an-dee. See ya in twunny minnits. Hey, jeet jet? No...jew?

Chuckles the Clown

12 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by Chuckles the Clown on 08/17/2016 at 1:03 PM

Re: “Coastal Taco Improves Its Game, Slowly but Surely

The main issue with coastal is consistency. You can go one day and have a great experience, great drinks, and great food, but go the next day and everything tastes different. Also, they are extremely pricey for small portions and at most times mediocre food. Why spend $3 per a taco for a small taco that tastes different every time I order it, when I can go to someplace like El carnicero with similar menu and larger portions for less money. I do frequent coastal, and the atmosphere is great but it's very disappointing to take friends and not be able to promise a great experience.

They also need a longer happy hour.

12 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by Saxxy on 08/17/2016 at 11:46 AM

Re: “Crop Rocks and Crop Sticks to Close in September

The reviews on Yelp are sufficient to warrant a closure as the owners did not manage their customer service very well. The bar tender was very rude and and lacked customer service skills. The hostess expected customers in the empty place to have reservations. Instead of asking if you have reservations right away, a better greeting would have been: "where would you like to be seated" this would have been more appropriate and friendly!

Posted by jrp36 on 08/17/2016 at 11:34 AM

Re: “The Origins and Evolution of the Cleveland Accent (Yes, You Have an Accent, Cleveland)

I moved to columbus as a teen and was constantly asked to say Mom and Pop because the kids there thought it was funny. they all sounded like stoopid southerners to me! After returning to CLE 10 years later, our accent is very clear in my ears. Not everyone here has it, but it's real, folks.

12 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by omeme on 08/17/2016 at 11:25 AM

Re: “Councilman Kerry McCormack Impresses at Public Square City Club Debut

Shingler's a dope. the streets also enter squares in Madrid from the outside, not the center of a side. and neither he nor McCormack nor anyone have any plan for reimbursing RTA for their losses. route cuts will follow, but Shingler probably doesn't care. because rich white asshats hate poor black folks. that's basically it.

5 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by RTyay on 08/17/2016 at 11:18 AM

Re: “The Origins and Evolution of the Cleveland Accent (Yes, You Have an Accent, Cleveland)

I work in sales and have grown up in the Cleveland area my whole life. I can assure you we have an accent that I wasn't even aware of it until a few years ago. When my company has national sales meetings and sales reps from all over the country come together they all make fun of the way I talk. It's very subtle to use but I can assure you it's there. Literally it's the running joke at sales meetings. Hi I'm Aaa-shley I'm from Cleee-vel-aaand. I find it humorous and unique so I don't mind. Good article!

15 likes, 7 dislikes
Posted by Ashley Warner on 08/17/2016 at 11:17 AM

Re: “Coastal Taco Improves Its Game, Slowly but Surely

We went there a few weeks after it opened. Our server knew nothing and had to be told more than once that our bill was wrong (she charged us full price for happy hour drinks and then questioned us when we pointed out they were supposed to be a different price, which means she was charging every other table in her station full price instead of happy hour price). Considering the fact that there seemed to be more employees milling around than customers when we were there, we were surprised at how long it took to initially be acknowledged by our server (we finally had to stop a different server to ask for glasses of water), have her return with our drink order (at least 15 minutes), receive our food (wrong food was brought to us twice) and finally receive a corrected bill. When the food arrived, we were disappointingly surprised at the size of the portions. Don't go in there expecting to make a meal on 2-3 tacos. The tortillas are slightly larger than a slice of lemon. Happy Hour special when we were there was five for $5, and you need all five and then some if you're not planning to eat dinner after you leave. And if you're there for dinner when it's not happy hour and you're paying $3 or more per taco, expect a fairly steep bill for not much food. The guacamole was served in a very small ramekin and was, if I remember, $6 or $7. it really was a single serving, and it was just plain, old guacamole. The whole thing was an overpriced letdown. We left hungry and annoyed. We thought about calling or writing the owners, but we figured it wouldn't be open long enough to get a response.

13 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by sandy on 08/17/2016 at 11:12 AM

Re: “Cleveland Teachers Union Calls for Strike, Will Hit Picket Lines September 1 if Contract Still Unresolved

Wannabe "man of steel" Mike White would be going full Napoleon complex on the CTU -- ordering Nate Gray to start a slush fund for dirty tricks and commanding the weak-kneed editors at The Plain Dealer to destroy the union's leadership through rumors and innuendo.

Posted by LakeErieSeaGulls on 08/17/2016 at 11:12 AM

Re: “The Origins and Evolution of the Cleveland Accent (Yes, You Have an Accent, Cleveland)

The denial is strong in here. Cleveland does have an accent. Listen to the Triv Show, that's it.

30 likes, 6 dislikes
Posted by not from here on 08/17/2016 at 10:37 AM

Re: “Coastal Taco Improves Its Game, Slowly but Surely

The biggest complaint I hear about is simply the process. Apparently you can't split tabs and they make you open a tab as soon as you arrive, and then all the food arrives on one tray as stated. Sounds like they should make a few adjustments to have success. I am still going to wait... perhaps by end of the summer they will have things figured out.

6 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by Clifton Haworth on 08/17/2016 at 9:47 AM

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