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Re: “North Ridgeville Man Sues Cleveland Police Over Unlawful Arrest

Whats wrong with complying with the police? I guess I was raised wrong by my parents when they told me that if someone with power,(police, firefighter, teacher, pastor, principal, or an adult that i know and trust) ask me to do something and it is of no harm to me, that I should listen to them.

If people have a problem with the law, then do something to change it. If you are going to sit back and do nothing, do not complain about the law.

He was driving erratically, even stated by the complaint against the police. The first assumption would be impaired driving. There are field tests to see if further tests are needed to prove if the levels are over the legal limit. If you refuse these tests, the police are well within their right to arrest the individual and go through other means to prove, whether right or wrong if the driver is then impaired. Up to that point the police were on the correct side of the law.

I do not know how long it takes for a blood test or a urine test to come back, but i do know that a breathalyzer, can give very fast results. That option was already declined by the individual. So urine and blood is the next option.

Two Days?!?! I have to believe that the results came back much much faster than that. Thats where the story seems to be missing a few things. If there was nothing to warrant the two days of incarceration, then yes, this is very sad that this happened and the individual involved has every right to go for restitution. However the two police officers that made the initial stop shouldn't get in trouble. After they filed their reports and handed the gentleman over, it is in someone else's hands at that point. I am sure the reports were done and filed before the blood and urine tests got back.

This story is all one side of the story. There are always two sides to a story as well. If this side comes out to be completely true, someone needs to make up what happened to him.

Before we jump to conclusions, lets get all the facts on the table. They may all be there, they may not all be there, its important to look at this with an open mind. None of us know what actually happened at this point other than the individual himself. He was the only one there for the whole story, I am sure the two police officers didn't log 48 hours strait at the station/jail.

Most people making comments have the story planned out in their head where either the individual or the law was 100% at fault. Typically speaking, its never just one side that has complete blame with this.

I do know however that if I am pulled over by a police officer, I am going to treat them with respect and dignity, the same way I treat people the first time I meet them. A little courtesy goes a long way in all situations. From the way this story sounds, it seems that there was no courtesy in either direction for those involved.

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Posted by Raven610 on 04/25/2015 at 1:51 AM

Re: “Here's Two Lakewood Residents Calling the Cops to Complain There are Black People Around

^mandatory sociology course

Posted by Dear racist fail troll on 04/24/2015 at 11:43 PM

Re: “Personal Information About Cleveland Schemer Oscar Villarreal Trickling In

Give me a call. I am the reason Osca jr. came to Ohio. Gary Saunders 216-344-0892

Posted by saunga01 on 04/24/2015 at 6:48 PM

Re: “Vegas-Style Pool Added to Flats-Based Club FWD

Any word on if they're going to allow boats to dock along the river?

Posted by anon on 04/24/2015 at 4:36 PM

Re: “Symon to Host New Food Network Show: Burgers, Brew and 'Que

Why would anyone stop at such a sub par establishment?

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Posted by whorehey on 04/24/2015 at 4:22 PM

Re: “Here's Two Lakewood Residents Calling the Cops to Complain There are Black People Around

Maybe it's because of statistics like these:

2011 US Crime Statistics by Race (from the FBI)

Arrests by crime and race

Crime White Black Indian/Eskimo Pacific Isl.

Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter 4,000 4,149 105 87

By percentage 48.0% 49.7% 1.3% 1.0%

Blacks are 13% of the U.S. population but commit half of the crimes.


2008 (Jan-June) New York City Crime Statistics by Race (from Yahoo News)

-83% of all gun assailants were black, while making up 24% of the population

-Blacks and Hispanics together accounted for 98% of all gun assailants

-49 of every 50 muggings and murders were carried out by blacks or Hispanics


It's not a racial problem, it's a cultural problem.

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Posted by BrianWilson on 04/24/2015 at 3:38 PM

Re: “FBI Accuses Parma Woman's 'Pimp' Of Extorting Stark County Businessman

Keep it classy Parma....

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Posted by cbrbart on 04/24/2015 at 3:26 PM

Re: “Cleveland in Running to Host the 2016 Copa America

Though major outdoor matches have not been gate busters in Cleveland - and that dates back to a Team USA appearance in Municipal Stadium as a prep for the 1994 FIFA World Cup - the marketing for this tournament by U.S. Soccer, CONMEBOL and CONCACAF should crank up tourism for the host cities.....and the reason why stadiums must have at least 50,000 seats.

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Posted by LakeErieSeaGulls on 04/24/2015 at 3:25 PM
Posted by BrianWilson on 04/24/2015 at 3:24 PM

Re: “Deep Chemistry Sustains Pat Benatar and Neil Giraldo

Should read Friday April 24th, not Saturday.

Posted by am16153 on 04/24/2015 at 1:29 PM

Re: “Symon to Host New Food Network Show: Burgers, Brew and 'Que

That's great maybe maybe he will stop by B2B Burgers 2 Beer and check us out. Hope he will.

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Posted by Elie Chamoun on 04/24/2015 at 1:22 PM

Re: “Here's Two Lakewood Residents Calling the Cops to Complain There are Black People Around

Lakewood just can't afford more scandals when it is already in the Great Lakewood Hospital Coverup -- a deal to downsize an important aspect of community health with the vague promises of tax money and convenient political dealings. It is a scandal in the making that will affect everyone in the area, and it seems that, so far, the public is being ignored.

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Posted by Joe Garrison on 04/24/2015 at 1:14 PM

Re: “Taking the Financial Temperature of the Possible Lakewood Hospital Closure

Amazing! The hospital vital to the community should be downsized to "fit community needs?" NEWS FLASH: the "community" extends way beyond Lakewood's borders. And the fact that Avon is chomping at the bit to quickly fill in the gap shows that we're being lied to. This just sounds like a covered-up dirty deal. Perhaps the next "transition" should be downsizing Lakewood City Hall. You know, just to "fit the community's needs."

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Posted by Joe Garrison on 04/24/2015 at 1:05 PM

Re: “Here's Two Lakewood Residents Calling the Cops to Complain There are Black People Around

"America, the home of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy...."

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Posted by Nacho Berkowitz on 04/24/2015 at 11:06 AM
Posted by Nacho Berkowitz on 04/24/2015 at 11:05 AM

Re: “Personal Information About Cleveland Schemer Oscar Villarreal Trickling In

He was indeed a gifted piano player.

Posted by goneAWOL on 04/24/2015 at 10:36 AM

Re: “North Ridgeville Man Sues Cleveland Police Over Unlawful Arrest

I love the typical boot-licker response. Comply or else! Nothing to hide = nothing to fear. Funny how the boot-lickers are usually the right wingers...you know, the same people that preach about freedom and supporting the troops...you know, the troops that are fighting to protect the constitution (allegedly)...you know, the constitution that protects our natural born human rights, which contains the 4th amendment...you know, the one which states there will be no warrant-less searches, seizures, checkpoints, stop-and-frisks, wiretapping, surveillance, etc...you know, the same methods that were used under Stalin in Russia and Hitler in Germany. Boot-licking = fascism. Quit being a fascist Joe.

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Posted by Not Joe on 04/24/2015 at 10:06 AM

Re: “Personal Information About Cleveland Schemer Oscar Villarreal Trickling In

@mykneckhurtz: It was Highland, yes. (Changed in the text above). Transcription typo.

Posted by Sallard on 04/24/2015 at 8:32 AM

Re: “Oscar Villarreal Swindled Cleveland's Rich Out of Millions... and Then He Disappeared

Meanwhile lots of talented people, who happen to be female, are ignored by this community. They are as sexist as they come as they perpetuate their "old boy" network. If you don't believe me look at Crain's lists of the Top 100 CEOs or Top 100 Executives when they come out. There are very, very few women on those lists.

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Posted by Squid on 04/24/2015 at 8:19 AM

Re: “North Ridgeville Man Sues Cleveland Police Over Unlawful Arrest

I bet Joe is a fucking cop. Assholes stick up for each other

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Posted by jim4130 on 04/24/2015 at 7:46 AM

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