Why do people think they NEED to be dropped off in public square. Is being dropped off a few hundred feet away really an issue? Why are people opposed to having a cohesive park in the middle of the city where there aren't hundreds of buses driving through daily? I would not want my kids running around in the splash park with buses driving by 10 yards away. I'm also not afraid to say that the people that get on and off the buses (not saying all, but a large percentage) are less than desirable. If anyone lives downtown they will understand how awful it is walking by the current bus stops in front of terminal tower. I have been frequently harassed and witnessed numerous fights while walking through. I understand the city promised to allow the buses through as part of its proposal, but short of this fact, I cannot logically see any benefit to having the buses go through the middle of a park and CLE Scene has not cited a single other reason for supporting the buses. There is no possible way a reroute is going to cost $2.6 (if this figure includes the park renovations then it is plausible). Good job bashing a rival news outlet though. This much you accomplished.
What did Mr. Adams do for AT&T? Please have him contact Josh Healan at Experis and we can find him his next opportunity. I can be reached at 216-901-8605.
Now that Dick Goddard has retired from Fox-8, maybe this will give him something to do. But knowing the glacial speed at which laws are changed in Ohio, he will have to live to be a hundred years old before he sees positive results.
Chuckles the Clown
what fucking idiot thought that a national forest was the perfect spot for fracking?
Follow the lobbying money -- state lawmakers are obedient dogs to those who cut the largest checks and provide the best benefits.....which can extend well after their careers as elected/appointed politicians are over.
Director Denis Villeneuve presents a truly sublime experience in communication, oneness, language and outside intervention.
The beauty of the film is how they steer clear of the predictable 'alien' word. What starts off as the arrival of extra terrestrials in towering space crafts, quickly turns in to a quest to decode and understand why they are here. How they do it forms the crux of the movie.
Amy Adams has acted with so much dignity and grace, never wavering in her 'holistic' approach to our guests. Jeremy Renner ably supports her, and the pieces of the story quietly fall into place. It's wonderful how a concept in the film is explained by the very way the story is told.
A sci-fi film with so much soul.
Look, Cleveland is OK, but merely just OK. The reason why real estate is cheaper here is because it's more BORING and BLAND here! Once you've experienced the good food, orchestra, zoo, theatres, metroparks, etc., there is nothing much else to do here. Lake Erie is a joke of a mud puddle, compared to the great salt water beaches of America, the traffic lights are timed to stop you from advancing a few blocks at a time when driving, and the culture is a lot more homogenous than the more larger cities and metro areas. Drive just a few miles away from Cleveland proper, and you enter vast swaths of unexciting farmland. The people that diss Los Angeles, Boston, New York, Chicago, etc. are usually the ones that can't AFFORD it! I've lived in some of those cities, and I would, without hesitation move back if I could! But for now, i'm STUCK in Cleveland!
There is a Rally in front of Sherrod Brown's office (200 N High St) this Thursday Dec 8th, at 11:30am. It is part of our never-ending search for Sherrod Brown...where has he been? Wherever he has been, it certainly hasn't been working on protecting Ohio's wild landscapes and public forests. Bring signs, the theme is Ohio's wildlife.
There is also a protest scheduled for Dec 10th, at 9 am, in front of the Athens Ranger Station (13700 US-33, Nelsonville, OH 45764). This is a peaceful protest. Bring instruments, art, posters- anything to show your love for Wayne National Forest. Some people will be camping over, bring tent/gear if you intend to stay until Dec 13th.
You can also call/email Kathleen Atkinson, Sherrod Brown, Bureau of Land Management (BLM) & Department of Interior (DOI).
Join us in support- protect Wayne National Forest! Check our facebook pages for more information #savethewayne, #keepwaynewild
Nice writeup. Cosgrove thinks he's moving up, but he may have just boarded the Trumptanic
David Price and Answe : It states in the 2nd paragraph that it is a natural gas pipeline.
"As far as Northeast Ohio is concerned, the natural gas pipeline is planned to run through . . ."
Glad that people take interest in this. For those with questions, Clevelanders for Public Transit has a web site with a lot of information about Public Square and why they want transit back on Superior.
I'm not a member, though I was at their event on Saturday which is where I learned about the web site.
Good for them! Add a wave pool please. I didn't mind staying there..the price was right staff was very nice, but they unfortunately take a back seat to Kalahari.... I compared it to imagining being out in some boon dock town and Maui sands being the big deal for all the locals. Only way to describe it... Looking forward to seeing the renovations!!
@growler since none of that information is included in the article I would be hard pressed to deduce that. And doing the budget for a business is a little different than budgeting a $200 mil public entity. The buses are rerouted about 500 feet - if it's costing 2.5 mil then they are doing it wrong. They don't have even close to 2500 buses - they have 425 (yes I realize buses go thru more than once a day).
Genuinely wondering....why is everyone so heated on this topic? Will this raise fares for riders? I think a closed square would be much nicer looking, safer for pedestrians, etc. It also would be nice to have one big , uninterrupted park downtown for people to enjoy.
Official Sarah Palin "Drill, Baby, Drill!" T-shirts, buttons, sweatshirts and caps will also be for sale on the auction webpage.
Aren't the busses just picking up people on Ontario St. now anyway? What's wrong with that?
When you abbreviate something you should let the readers know you will be abbreviating it, after the first time you spell it out. Bureau of Land Managment (BLM). Please and thank you.
@Daniel - you've clearly never done budgeting for a business. it's pretty easy to rack up spending when 2,500 buses a day go through there. that's only a few bucks a bus...and with the huge delays it's causing (which means drivers' labor hours), it's pretty darn easy.
This is disgusting and sad. BLM & NPS should be viewed as sacred ground. The tax-paying officials working in these offices should not be pursuing private-public deals of this nature.
Not everything in life is supposed to make money. NPS & BLM land should not be abused or subjugated by a profit-motive theology.
Why would it take $2.6 million additional to reroute around the edge of public square? That makes ZERO sense.
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