Vote Here and Now for Best of Cleveland 2017®!

Narrow Search

  • Show Only

  • Narrow by Date

    • All
    • Today
    • Last 7 Days
    • Last 30 Days
    • Select a Date Range

Re: “Public Square Opens to Buses with New, Ugly Safety Features

A few comments here:

First, while I'm pretty much against most of the "All Aboard Ohio" agenda, Predergast is exactly right with his quotes above. We definitely see eye to eye on this one. And if you don't think it's plausible that the city would make these updates as ugly as possible just out of spite, then you haven't been paying attention to how petty (and ignorant) these people are.

Second: Why have we given the designers a free pass in this debacle? I'm not saying they're at fault here, and chances are they did exactly what their client, the City, told them to do, but there are questions that should be asked of them. Osborn Engineering was the lead designer, their offices are a couple blocks from Public Square, yet I never see them questioned in all this. Let's not forget that the final design is exactly what we got: the big sweeping pedestrian crossing of Superior with buses running thought it. This was the final, reviewed, approved, signed and sealed design. So the mayor closes it to buses for a couple months, and then all the sudden when he has to open it back up, the whole thing is an engineering and safety shitshow? That doesn't add up. Either it was safe and well-designed before and all the crap the City and RTA installed in the last week is complete BS (the likely scenario), or it was a horrible design originally and they're somehow "fixing it" now. Either way, the City and Osborn should answer that question. Even if the design was shit, the City reviewed and accepted it so they're not off the hook regardless.

Finally, in the "people have very short memories" column, we all seem caught up in this very recent development of buses being allowed through the Square and how much the Fed will fine RTA. These developments of the last 6 months are NOT when the City blew it. They had a deal, Frank overplayed the tiny hand he was dealt, the Feds called his bluff, and now that's settled. Dumb for sure, but a minor issue and par for the course around here. Those making the decisions blew it a long time ago. Does anyone remember the original concepts that were thrown around for Public Square years ago, like closer to 6-8 years ago? There were maybe 4 or so that were all pretty unique. At least one had Superior open with the park going OVER it, bridging the road. Before you say putting a park on a bridge is crazy, realize it's not, and exactly that idea has been constructed many places including over IR-71 in downtown Columbus. The idea, along with others, was thrown out for a couple reasons, but the supposedly insurmountable reason was it was deemed too expensive. Which it was at the time, but that's when the budget was thought to be in the realm of $20M (no one had any money for the job yet). Well guess what? The thing ended up being almost $60M when all was said and done. For 60 Mil, all the sudden a lot more seems feasible, like building a true park and open space instead of a glorified bus stop. What could have been.....

12 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by Abe Froman on 03/07/2017 at 12:03 PM

Re: “NBC Nightly News Covers Growing Heroin Epidemic in Ohio with a Family Destroyed By Addiction: VIDEO

Do you people really think Ohio has a monopoly on the Heroin epidemic?? This shit is EVERYWHERE

14 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by MgHaldeman on 03/07/2017 at 10:52 AM

Re: “Donald Trump Wants to Cut Great Lakes Federal Funding By 97 Percent

The cost of sending Trump on vacation to Mar-A-Lago every weekend for four weeks in a row is the same cost of the entire annual Great Lakes Restoration Initiative.

2 likes, 0 dislikes
Posted by Tim Evanson on 03/07/2017 at 9:59 AM

Re: “Chow Chow to Close Shop in Lakewood to Merge with Parkview Nite Club

We will miss you! Will definitely be stopping in to have a last meal, thanks for joining the neighborhood, Joseph.

1 like, 1 dislike
Posted by Cory Roberts on 03/07/2017 at 9:42 AM

Re: “Chicago's Home of Chicken & Waffles Dishes Up Comfort, Could Still Use Some TLC

While I applaud the design, our experience here was quite a bit less than ideal. It started out very nice. Both the host and our server welcomed us "home", our server even shaking our hands during his introduction. From that point on, it went downhill. After advising we would receive the best service ever, we were also advised that we were his last table and he couldn't wait to leave. We then ordered waters and bar drinks. Bar drinks came out quickly, but I had to ask three times for water and forget about a water refill the rest of the time there. Immediately after putting in our food order, the waiter came with the tablet to check out. He wanted to be sure that as soon as we were done he could leave, he explained. This put us in a very awkward position in tipping as we are being asked to tip before service is even provided. This also meant if we wanted another drink we would have to go to the bar and wait in line and start another tab. The menus were left on the table until I finally put them on another table. What are we going to do with menus and no server?? The food itself was decent but the dining experience was horrid. The person who seemed to be the manager walking around with a bluetooth device in his ear seemed to be more interested in two women sitting by the bar, then the restaurant itself.

Posted by Josh James on 03/07/2017 at 9:13 AM

Re: “NBC Nightly News Covers Growing Heroin Epidemic in Ohio with a Family Destroyed By Addiction: VIDEO

As a recovering addict myself it's not cause of lack of education or poverty cause news flash drugs are not cheap! I personally know this family and that's just 2 out of the 15 people I knew who has died in the past year alone of an overdose. This is a sad time in our tiny community all because it's easier to stay high then deal with the withdrawls.

21 likes, 4 dislikes
Posted by Keepingitreal! on 03/07/2017 at 9:06 AM

Re: “Public Square Opens to Buses with New, Ugly Safety Features

The city should hire local artists to paint the North Korean-inspired blockades.

2 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by LakeErieSeaGulls on 03/07/2017 at 8:43 AM

Re: “Public Square Opens to Buses with New, Ugly Safety Features

Our mayor is an asshole

11 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by sja7044 on 03/07/2017 at 8:24 AM

Re: “Loganberry Books Shelves Men's Books Backwards as a 'Metaphor of Silencing the Male Voice'

Interesting. Striking visual representation of the everyday silencing of non-dominant voices... including those who comprise the majority, which is female.

11 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by Catalystic on 03/07/2017 at 8:08 AM

Re: “NBC Nightly News Covers Growing Heroin Epidemic in Ohio with a Family Destroyed By Addiction: VIDEO

It's because of our geographic location in the country. The cartels send the dope to Cincinnati and Dayton to be cut with fentanyl and carfentanyl then distributed to Detroit Chicago Philadelphia etc. Educate yourself clown... You sound extremely pathetic and ignorant. This is the number one cause of death in our country.. not just Ohio

35 likes, 4 dislikes
Posted by Homie The Clown on 03/07/2017 at 7:35 AM

Re: “Best Cleveland Heights Restaurant

Best? Says who? This reads as an ad, not a review. I hope they paid you well for it.

Posted by Balakirev on 03/07/2017 at 2:25 AM

Re: “NBC Nightly News Covers Growing Heroin Epidemic in Ohio with a Family Destroyed By Addiction: VIDEO

Lock them up. that's what Greg White did with crackheads. Oh wait that is because most crack heads were black.

6 likes, 19 dislikes
Posted by steeltruth on 03/07/2017 at 1:52 AM

Re: “NBC Nightly News Covers Growing Heroin Epidemic in Ohio with a Family Destroyed By Addiction: VIDEO

I am raising my grandkids because of it,,, and there are many grandparents like me. Our drug laws are part of the problem.

20 likes, 3 dislikes
Posted by Stu Mahaffey on 03/06/2017 at 10:31 PM

Re: “NBC Nightly News Covers Growing Heroin Epidemic in Ohio with a Family Destroyed By Addiction: VIDEO

It's poverty and lack of education.

5 likes, 45 dislikes
Posted by Maggie Hammock on 03/06/2017 at 10:15 PM
Posted by concerned216 on 03/06/2017 at 10:07 PM

Re: “Public Square Opens to Buses with New, Ugly Safety Features

Looks like a road construction site. It also looks like shit. Thanks for nothing, asshats.

Chuckles the Clown

7 likes, 2 dislikes
Posted by Chuckles the Clown on 03/06/2017 at 9:10 PM

Re: “NBC Nightly News Covers Growing Heroin Epidemic in Ohio with a Family Destroyed By Addiction: VIDEO

My cousin, who lives in another state, called me yesterday. He apparently saw this report,and his question was "Why are people in Ohio more stupid than folks anywhere else?"

I couldn't come up with a good answer. So what is it? Despair? Because so many lives suck and there are no jobs and no hope of finding any and these unprepared people are permanently gonna be left behind to rot and starve? Is that the reason for all this?

I used to think it was just dumb hillbilly trailer trash down in southern Ahia, or fools in the hood, but this is a state with so much amazing diversity...and it's happening everywhere. So WTF IS the answer? Can anyone tell me in a coherent short-answer essay? Please? That graphic with the shape of the state and the Ohio flag and the hypo? Sad beyond words. What a waste of humanity, not to mention another black eye for the Buckeye State.

Chuckles the Clown

7 likes, 26 dislikes
Posted by Chuckles the Clown on 03/06/2017 at 8:57 PM

Re: “Chow Chow to Close Shop in Lakewood to Merge with Parkview Nite Club

"On the reg"...almost as annoying as "resto"...
Please...SCENE is neither Variety nor the NY Daily News...give it a resto...

Chuckles the Clown

7 likes, 7 dislikes
Posted by Chuckles the Clown on 03/06/2017 at 8:46 PM

Re: “Public Square Opens to Buses with New, Ugly Safety Features

What a stupid implementation? It looks terrible. Nice work everyone involved. Bunch of losers in power.

12 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by Leaders Suck on 03/06/2017 at 8:44 PM
Posted by Tina on 03/06/2017 at 8:30 PM

Calendar

Newsletters

Never miss a beat

Sign Up Now

Subscribe now to get the latest news delivered right to your inbox.


© 2017 Cleveland Scene: 737 Bolivar Rd., Suite 4100, Cleveland, OH 44115, (216) 241-7550
Logos and trademarks on this site are property of their respective owners.


Website powered by Foundation