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Re: “That "Tiny House Experiment" in Detroit Shoreway Pretty Much Failed

The tiny house movement is viable in areas where the housing want is greater than the housing availability. The area has problems that supersede housing.

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Posted by Craig DeVon Wilson on 03/18/2017 at 12:01 PM

Re: “That "Tiny House Experiment" in Detroit Shoreway Pretty Much Failed

I'm disappointed you called it a fail. Innovation always comes with high risks and it was an experiment. I commend those involved for trying something new and being open to bringing this concept here. So it didn't work, back to the drawing board! Don't be discouraged or discouraging when innovation hits!! It's exciting, and there are always kinks, but that's the nature of trying!!!!

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Posted by Anne Muskin Brower on 03/18/2017 at 11:41 AM

Re: “That "Tiny House Experiment" in Detroit Shoreway Pretty Much Failed

First, im sorry it didnt work out for the intended purpose of the builders. There are ways of making it work. They need to change the landscape and lower the prices for sure.
There definitely needed to be more research on the target market.
All of the people commenting here should have been on the planning team. You all know what you're talking about.
I live in Metro-Detroit & am in the start-up phase of my business, Tiny and Smart.
I have no website yet. Been doing leg work for years. Later this month I'm attending a course on tiny house building. I want to get it right when I create a Tiny House Community in Detroit.
If anybody is interested in getting involved in creating a community in Detroit, feel free to contact me.

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Posted by Debbie Rossman on 03/18/2017 at 11:38 AM

Re: “That "Tiny House Experiment" in Detroit Shoreway Pretty Much Failed

It's obvious to me why this project failed. Intent is priority, and the intent here appears to have been to cash in on the tiny house movement. These kay be small houses, but they are way overpriced. People can purchase true tiny, and usually portable, for 40-60k.

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Posted by Lis on 03/18/2017 at 11:00 AM

Re: “That "Tiny House Experiment" in Detroit Shoreway Pretty Much Failed

Their business model was good for a COMPLETELY different area. But since their model was so rigid and not suited for the area, it's no wonder it failed. The price was too high, the home too large. They were selling a small home with very few benefits for the cost of a large home. It makes no sense.

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Posted by Cara Young on 03/18/2017 at 9:34 AM

Re: “That "Tiny House Experiment" in Detroit Shoreway Pretty Much Failed

Try living in that area what a joke. The drugs,violent crimes and prostitution problem is at its highest in years in that area. I grew up around there it was a shit hole then and hasn't got any better in the last 20 years. They should have picked a different area to build maybe more people would've been interested. I love the tiny house idea considered building my own, but this area is a joke got to carry and conceal just to go shopping around this area.

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Posted by CBOW on 03/18/2017 at 8:45 AM

Re: “Our Favorite Dumb Bad Yelp Reviews of Cleveland Restaurants

How about that my comment was deleted? Thank you for the answer as to where you lifted the article idea from.

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Posted by CleWNTL on 03/18/2017 at 7:49 AM

Re: “Veteran Power-Pop Singer-Songwriter Dwight Twilley Adapts to Acoustic Format

In October 1976, the Dwight Twilley Band's sizzling gig at the Agora Theatre and Ballroom was recorded for broadcast on WMMS....and an edited version of the show eventually aired on the King Biscuit Flower Hour. It was finally released commercially in 2009 as "Live from Agora" -- and is well worth any legwork or keyboard tapping required to track down the hard to find CD.

Posted by LakeErieSeaGulls on 03/18/2017 at 7:34 AM

Re: “That "Tiny House Experiment" in Detroit Shoreway Pretty Much Failed

Well, I went to the "website" and it's a trainwreck. No photos of the homes, no links to the MLS pages, no progress photos/stories on the blog (and the blog itself is a joke with little to no running updates). The only way to find photos of the homes was to click the little circular "F" to go to the Facebook page. Whoever ran the website should be fired.

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Posted by Matt Myers on 03/18/2017 at 7:31 AM

Re: “That "Tiny House Experiment" in Detroit Shoreway Pretty Much Failed

150,000 to live in a "tiny house" in the hood! I wonder why nobody bought the houses. Smh

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Posted by Justin Smith 1 on 03/18/2017 at 1:08 AM

Re: “Our Favorite Dumb Bad Yelp Reviews of Cleveland Restaurants

Seems so familiar to me. I swear I was just reading the same shtick on a new blog called swingoskeyparty.com great minds think alike I guess.

Posted by CleWNTL on 03/17/2017 at 10:35 PM

Re: “That "Tiny House Experiment" in Detroit Shoreway Pretty Much Failed

The "living" value of a tiny home would increase if they were actually a "tiny community". Close proximity to "lifestyle activities" in the "zone" would make them more attractive.
Look at the wasted yardspace. Interactive gardening, gaming area, nature pond to stroll around, or sit and reflect, wifi share, "virtual shopping" areas...all packaged attractively in a walkable area. These 'accents" will bring buyers. It's not just the "home". It's the community attractions. Nobody wants to be home all the time.

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Posted by Lyla Moss on 03/17/2017 at 8:13 PM

Re: “Our Favorite Dumb Bad Yelp Reviews of Cleveland Restaurants

The article had valid points. I wont argue that... Some people on yelp write reviews to hurt a business... Some people write reviews because they know that if you write a bad review some places will give you free stuff. Some people, like most of the people who have the elite title write reviews so that the next person walking through the door has an idea of what they are walking into... I love that my review got singled out, yet read my review, it states 1. i never had this cuisine before. 2. i didn't like the bread that they so highly raved about.... I apologize that my palate doesn't match yours.

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Posted by Ross H on 03/17/2017 at 8:08 PM

Re: “That "Tiny House Experiment" in Detroit Shoreway Pretty Much Failed

The problem wasn't the idea, the problem was the cost. People go tiny to save and spend money else where in their lives

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Posted by Don 1 on 03/17/2017 at 7:08 PM

Re: “That "Tiny House Experiment" in Detroit Shoreway Pretty Much Failed

It sounds as if potential buyers actually provided valuable feedback -- but nobody was willing to listen, since there was absolutely no wiggle room in the inflexible business model.

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Posted by LakeErieSeaGulls on 03/17/2017 at 5:30 PM

Re: “That "Tiny House Experiment" in Detroit Shoreway Pretty Much Failed

When the people who build the tiny houses on HGTV talk about their houses, they typically choose the tiny home lifestyle for four reasons.

1.) Financial freedom from not having a large home loan.

2.) The portability to live anywhere at a moment's notice.

3.) The ability to live a minimalist lifestyle and have the outdoors be a part of their lives and living space.

4.) They are built with sustainable materials and are low energy so they were built green and can live easily off the grid.

These on the shoreway are small homes (not tiny,) they are not portable on a trailer, they have a large financial burden, offer more space to fit stuff rather than creative outdoor spaces, and a large investment was made to make them energy efficient when these are fixed on the grid.

I'd say the builder totally missed their target audience. If they were built at a better price point, those would have sold to quickly to the millennial generation with student loan debt.

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Posted by Alan 1 on 03/17/2017 at 4:32 PM

Re: “That "Tiny House Experiment" in Detroit Shoreway Pretty Much Failed

Totally agree Madeline. Why pay that amount for something that small? If someone is going to spend that kind of money I am sure they don't want something under 1,000 square feet.

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Posted by Becca on 03/17/2017 at 4:26 PM
Posted by Madeline on 03/17/2017 at 4:17 PM

Re: “That "Tiny House Experiment" in Detroit Shoreway Pretty Much Failed

Well, this may have happened for a few reasons. First, most tiny house buyers (as far as I can tell) want portability and a price point that is far below rent for the area. Clearly, $130,000 is way above that level and probably way above what other homes in the neighborhood sell for.

Second, this area has a surplus of easy-to-renovate stick built homes, which can be purchased and renovated for far less than $100,000, all in. This is not NYC or SF, and it isn't Boston or Philly, where old housing stock is more likely to need oil tank removal, asbestos remediation and other expensive repairs.

I want to see innovative approaches to housing here, but I just don't think this is a winning strategy.

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Posted by Madeline on 03/17/2017 at 4:15 PM

Re: “Our Favorite Dumb Bad Yelp Reviews of Cleveland Restaurants

Restaurant owners must have a degree of masochism to deal with the general public.

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Posted by Madeline on 03/17/2017 at 1:56 PM

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