this is funny if you are a browns fan
Driving a cold engine is bad for the engine and emissions. A cold engine has oval shaped pistons that can wear the cylinders at more than idle rpm. Also engines run rich cold, so driving while could uses more fuel than idling cold.
The Shark Tank is just a bunch of leaches...Albiet millionaire leaches but still leaches...
Seriously? "Based on the wording of the statue?" idiots....
Let's clarify from a few posts on the 11/29. Big Dipper still stands along 43 like it always did. The Wolf Bobs was ripped down a couple weeks back due to part of it collapsing.
It has nothing to do with environment. Many, many, many cars are stolen when left running. Not just warming up. People will leave their cars running at the gas pump (also illegal) go inside to pay and she gone! Fun fact #2 you leave your keys in the car, YOU are responsible for any damage the thief dose.
I'm not sure if this was published for the "Did you know? / Some law are really strange, aren't they?" factor, or to gin up some anger among the folks who think that Greenpeace wields enormous influence with Ohio's extremely liberal lawmakers. In either case, it wasn't necessary. To compile the facts...
1. The car will warm up faster if actually DRIVEN.
2. It's bad for your engine if you let it idle for more than 30 secs. or so in cold weather (99% sure I heard this verified by the Car Talk guys once... but that WAS on liberally-biased NPR, so watch out, people - it's a conspiracy to get you save gas/money!).
3. If it's really cold out you should be wearing winter outerwear anyway - cars do fail (e.g., stall out completely/hopelessly) from time to time. Unless it's exceptionally cold (I'm thinking colder than -10F for most of us... but sure, we can/should cut more slack for the elderly), I doubt that most drivers really NEED to warm up their cars. However, those who don't have garages often have to take the time (sometimes a LOT of time) to thoroughly scrape off the ice and snow, and running your defrost helps with this, so that seems to be a legit reason (so, more slack should be afforded to the less wealthy folks who don't have garages). Heating your garage is an absurd and ridiculous luxury. People freeze to death on the streets while you keep your CARS warm at night - seriously?
4. Asthma is becoming more and more of a problem for kids (and, hello Klan fans, not just black kids!), and if thousands (millions) of people eliminate (or cut back on) warming up their cars, it's surely not going to hurt those people who enjoy breathing. We should still make factories run cleaner, too (and yes, that should be a HIGHER priority).
5. Global warming IS real, unfortunately, and the more we all run our engines, the more we're shooting ourselves in the collective (not talking Communism here, just saying that we all do live together in civilization/society... cities!) foot. Put one less hole in your/our foot.
6. If humanity survives that long (and perhaps it won't if Modern Man sees giving up the preheating of their vehicles as an intolerable sacrifice/going back to the horrific dark ages - are we really THAT soft?), the oil won't last forever. Save some for actually driving (ok, don't think about driving to work - think about driving to Cedar Point/the beach, your loved ones, etc.).
People didn't know this? Know the laws, people. You can break 'em as you please, but at least know them.
I think the law is mostly focused on safety and less about theft. Take for instance the case appearing at the beginning of page 6 of this PDF: www.sconet.state.oh.us/pdf_viewer/pdf_viewer.aspx?pdf=730589.pdf
A car that wasn't in park and didn't have its emergency brake engaged rolled over a man when the ignition suddenly turned over.
This all being said... has anyone ever heard of someone getting a ticket while they warmed up their car in the winter?
So I can get a ticket if I leave my vehicle and don't "effectively set the parking brake"? Good thing this rule also applies to emergency & utility vehicles too!
@Schmange19, you're not really trying to blame people spending 5-10 minutes in the morning on people running their cars, are you? Especially in east side of cleveland where the steel mills are? I worked for American Lung Association for about a year. Asthma can be caused by a lot of different things, not just air pollution. Genetics is a huge factor, along with respiratory infections during childhood, and yes, airborne pathogens. But don't go blaming cars on everything. Sure, it may not help, but it's not the primary cause. If something should be legislated, it's the factories. Oh, but factories bring in more money for the people who make the laws, so that won't happen.
If you do even the slightest amount of research, you will see that leaving your car idling in order to warm it up is a very bad idea - both for the health of your engine and for the environment. Idling while the engine is cold promotes excess fuel in the mixture which is absorbed by the oil and can then damage other internal engine components, especially seals and gaskets.
The wording of the statue? Really? LOL
That being said, if it's to deter thieves, it's kind of the risk you take if you leave your car running and unlocked. Also, it's perfectly possible to have the key in the car and take off the remote access and leave the key in the ignition with the door locked. Also, some models will keep running and allow you to completely remove the key.
From an environmental standpoint, I'm far more worried about emissions from factories than the few extra minutes people leave their car running to get into a warmer car as opposed to a colder one.
I also kind of doubt this is really enforced, so it's probably kind of a moot point anyway.
On the other hand, cars warm up quicker when you drive them, modern cars warm up in a matter of minutes when being driven, and leaving your car running while it's cold is bad for your engine. Not to say this statute is reasonable, but nonetheless... Just some random facts for you.
I want to add I'd like to see an investigative piece into the Kevin Kelley case. Sounds like that guy got rail-roaded by Stepp. This is karma for him.
Let me remind also that the paying off a superintendent's outstanding student loans prior to his appointment is completely unprecedented and unique to Medina. All of it is an outrage and I'm sorry we don't have the money to cover for Mr. Stepp who thought himself a CEO of a major corporation instead of a public servant. Kids went without clay in art class for crying
out loud! No reading intervention, all the services that the ESC money should have covered went to Stepp's pockets and his contracted "growth" instead of the services it paid for, all the while crying that there was no money to educate our children properly. The cat is out of the bag, the country club lifestyle of the rich and famous is over for Medina. Support local businesses, my foot! His next door neighbor? That's cronyism and everything should have estimates and bids. Funny, he's using cronyism as a defense against the state audit. Lay off the "outragers". If it wasn't for their vigilance and work, the levy wouldn't have ever passed. This time we're making sure it's "for the kids".
This was a great expose' and I appreciate ALL the investigative journalism into this fiasco, iincluding the Gazette.
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Those on here that defend the slimey snake of a man...AKA Randolf Stepp are most probably those that contributed to his ascension into Power and Corruption! He has scorned his own concocted "Core Values"! What a laugh... What a slimey POS!
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