Nope, born and raised in NEO and I've never spoken like this or noticed anyone I know who speaks like this.
I've lived in Cleveland my entire life and NEVER have I said 'kee-yan-dee' for 'candy' or 'cot' for 'cat'. That's how people from the Pittsburgh area say it, not people from the Cleveland area. I'm confused.....
Having lived here my whole life, I didn't really notice the NEO or upper-rust belt accent until I moved away. I assure you, friends, after hearing the difference... if your husband's name is Todd, you're calling him Tahd, not Todd. Naht that there's anything wrong with that, but we definitely sound weird anywhere else we go. Think how somebody from Wisconsin sounds to you; that's how we sound to everyone outside of this area.
I have lived in Northeast Ohio my entire life. I don't know anyone who pronounced cat or candy that way. I have traveled extensively and people have actually asked me to repeat particular phrases for them because they say that have never heard anyone speak so properly and without an accent of any sort. When I tell them where I am from they say, "Oh - that's why!"
If there is such a deep accent here, it would have been helpful to hear of more than two examples ...
Excellent article, but the claim that the Northern Cities Sound Shift represents "the largest transformation of spoken English in more than a thousand years" is pretty obviously absurd. How about the Great Vowel Shift or the cumulative phonological processes that led us from Old > Middle > Early Modern > Modern English?
So great to hear Wishing you. Great success HATS OFF CARL
Hey, very nice site. I came across this on Google, and I am stoked that I did. I will definitely be coming back here more often. Wish I could add to the conversation and bring a bit more to the table, but am just taking in as much info as I can at the moment. Thanks for sharing.
Fuckin cry me a river seriously
Seriously this is the most bull shit I've heard in a while like really FUCK YOU whoever wrote this shit rip Scott Weiland your voice lives on
Chris Berman will be available next year to provide the commentary....."Back-back-back-back-back-back, Gone!" / "Rumblin', Bumblin', Stumblin!" / "Whoooop!" / "Doink!" / "Boom Boom Boom!"
Another sock heard from. Probably the same one, actually. I rest my case.
Let the voters decide.
Chuckles the Clown
There needs to be a periodic reset for music fans that this Beach Boys is the Mike Love/Bruce Johnston version. Brian Wilson - with Al Jardine and Blondie Chaplin - is on a world tour that celebrates the 50th anniversary of "Pet Sounds".
Wow...he manages to be off point, rude, and annoying.
Reading Clown-boy is like listening to Trump; annoying until you realize he just wants attention and is actually really quite boring as he rewrites articles in the comment section.
When will The Cleveland flats learn..it's not NY ..if you want to get folks with $$ to come get drunk and eat $30 falafels ..with overpriced parking .redo the whole damn neighborhood with affordable rent for artisans and LOCAL.. NOT CORPORATE COOKIE CUTTER COOL BUSINESSES .you need better public transit HUBS with SAFE ample parking for us inner ring folks....or make a realistically priced offering and reasonable parking with shuttles. It's NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.. Lived her 38 yrs..seen the flats rise ..fall..rise ..fall..and try to rise again..now well.. Yeah...
I am a classical music buff, and definitely no fan of kids. The two do NOT mix. So yeah, I'm biased from the start, but I'm going to do this anyway.
You couldn't say no? Well, judging from the results, you should have.
But you brought your toddler "with" (you are most definitely from Chicago!) and if you're not exaggerating what transpired (just to get a few laughs from your audience), you most likely ruined the evening for more than a few of your fellow concert-goers. And probably for the performers. But what the hell, at least you don't owe anybody a new cello.
Of course the other patrons were (to you, at least) "charmed"...they were just trying to be polite. More polite than you were. You should have removed your son immediately...as soon as he started running around (why in hell did you think you should allow this? And where was the management?) and especially when he started shrieking. BEFORE he started shrieking.
You are a wonderful example of why many classical venues (AND dining establishment) do not allow any children under a certain age, under any circumstances. You felt entitled...to a night out with your kid...or just entitled, period, So you brought him along (not "with"). Big fat fucking mistake.
Hell, I really do understand how you need to get out of your underpriced house occasionally, especially as a new parent...and that your husband is a classically-trained musician who probably loves (and misses) events like these. But fer chrissakes, you should have just forked over the forty bucks and left your son at home. At least for this occasion. Seriously.
Maybe in a different place, or attending another type of music event, with another type of audience, things might have gone more smoothly. But they didn't. And the kid isn't at fault here...at the toddler stage, kids will be kids. You're the one to blame. You blew it.
Next time, be more considerate. Think. Please just say no...and then just take him to the fucking zoo.
Chuckles the Clown
What may start as a neat change of pace for some diners will quickly become a go-to location.
The main restaurant on W25th is great, I can understand why the University Circle place closed (HORRIBLE location), but these two closing is kind of baffling. Gotta be the menu, right? You couldn't have a better location.....
Serious question: how does a Public Square closed to bus traffic effect ridership? All the routes that are planned to stop in the Square currently stop just outside of the Square. Is the implication that people who would normally pick up a bus in the Square won't walk to W3rd & Superior to pick up the same bus?!
If you've been to Chicago or NY, transit services don't stop IN Grant Park or Central Park and subsequently divide them. They stop NEAR them. In Cleveland, it would actually make the more sense to have the central downtown routes stop on Prospect behind Tower City for easy transfer to the Rapid (since a shared station with Rapid isn't really possible).
For the record, keeping Superior closed through Public Square was what the plan should have been. It's what the initial plan WAS, whether you're talking about 1800s or with this latest redesign. Just ask the architects what plan they originally pitched and what they wanted to do prior to RTA input. But just like in the 1800s, the public transit interests trumped the public space interests and the park was divided. And as typical, Frank and City Council were so short-sighted that they didn't fight for anything....until now. Well guess what, Frankie? You're too late. That ship sailed 2+ years ago. The entire thing was built around a stupid road through the middle of it, and to change it now is ridiculous. Not quite as ridiculous as the city paying to build a dirt-bike track, but close. It's done. Come back in 40 years and we can talk change again.
I'm almost positive that every Monday is free from memorial day through labor day.
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