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Re: “After 100 years, the Cleveland Orchestra Continues to Ignore Women, Minorities and Living Composers

Hank Drake: I really respect your stuff on Amazon (I write there under the handle "Huntley Haverstock") - your reviews of Horowitz really opened my eyes to his greatness.

But I have to take strenuous objection to you here. New music isn't inherently valuable. Now, if it passes muster and secures a place in the repertory, then it is all to the good. But if it doesn't, it's not going too far out on a limb to suggest that the reason why might be related to quality.

Take Thomas Ades, a composer that we are supposed to think is important in the year 2018. Outside of his "Concentric Paths" it has been one "Emperor's New Clothes" situation after another with Ades. "Powder Her Face" being one of the worst attempts at contemporary opera I've seen since "Nixon in China".

Dreck is dreck.

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Posted by Jason Percy on 04/22/2018 at 10:24 PM

Re: “After 100 years, the Cleveland Orchestra Continues to Ignore Women, Minorities and Living Composers

If this is what passes for music criticism these days then God help us all.

Low hanging fruit, this. Not "enough" non-white works ergo the Cleveland Orchestra must be racist.

This kind of reductionist thinking is poisonous. And stupid.

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Posted by Jason Percy on 04/22/2018 at 10:02 PM

Re: “Biggest Little Man in Elyria

This story was wrong on so many levels and there is alot of lies in this story

Posted by Sherry Carter on 04/15/2018 at 10:59 PM

Re: “Lies, Damn Lies and the 450 Acres of Prime Real Estate That is Burke Lakefront Airport

As a long time defender of Burke Lakefront Airport, I have used the the bogus arguments that were debunked so well in the article. I attended and graduated from Aviation High School and worked at Burke when they had not one but two airlines operating there (Wright and Midway). I love the Airshow and look at Burke with great nostalgia.However, Cleveland has to look at the asset they have as opposed to the liability Burke has become. Cities don't get opportunities like this often, it would be great to see Cleveland not blow this one like they have done in the past.
One closing option Mr. McGraw did not explore is what Mayor Daley did with Meigs Field in Chicago. Meigs was, like Burke, a city owned airport in downtown. The mayor had city workers destroy the runway in the middle of the night in 2003, it never reopened. A fine was paid to the FAA, but the closing process was expedited. This was a pretty radical option, but the mayor had tried to close the airport for years.
I thought it was a well written article that hopefully opens the discussion on Burke Lakefronts future. It seems that it would be a good issue for a future mayoral candidate to run on.

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Posted by William Marconi on 04/10/2018 at 12:13 PM

Re: “Lies, Damn Lies and the 450 Acres of Prime Real Estate That is Burke Lakefront Airport

As a pilot, I can tell you that shutting down BKL will result in less business men and women traveling to Cleveland to meet face to face with our businesses. Hopkins is too far away to make it worth their while, plus the Fixed Base Operations (FBOs) at Hopkins are expensive and inefficient. Sure, the landing numbers may be down. However, these number of landings should not be what you base an airports worthiness on. What matters is convienence to the prominent and frequent travelers that mean the most to our local businesses and economy. Also, the landing numbers are largely affected by the fact that the city of Cleveland charges some of the highest landing fees in the entire country! (Landing fees are another term for tax). Thats the reason that United was forced to reduce its daily departures from Hopkins from 199 departures per day to 40 per day on their busiest day. This is not meant to be a political post, but facts are facts. This Democrat run city is taxing the landing traffic away from BKL and CLE.

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Posted by CLEflyguy on 04/07/2018 at 7:52 PM

Re: “Lies, Damn Lies and the 450 Acres of Prime Real Estate That is Burke Lakefront Airport

I haven't heard anyone mention the fact that Hopkins has an entire terminal with 30+ gates just sitting vacant. Seems that terminal could easily serve all the light aircraft that run through Burke.

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Posted by Curt Bechdel on 04/07/2018 at 3:04 PM

Re: “Lies, Damn Lies and the 450 Acres of Prime Real Estate That is Burke Lakefront Airport

Here we go again with the"close Burke" arguments. Sure, 450 acres is a lot of space to do something with. The real problem rests with the end result. It will come down to who ends up buying the land.

How many other projects started out with good intentions of doing something for the city and people of Cleveland, only to fail for some reason, or only benefiting a few? East bank, West bank, Galleria, Tower City, the stadium, the convention center, and so on.

Who wants to see the view of Lake Erie obscured by medium to high-rise condos that only a few can afford? $3,700/month for a two bedroom condo? Sure. Anyone can afford that.

A nice pro quality golf course? Great! Let's just dump more chemicals into the lake to increase the cyanobacteria of blue-green algae that shut down the water plant in Toledo a few years ago. Our water intake would be right in the middle of it.

Another shopping mall? How many go to Tower City and Galleria?

The article points out that take offs and landings are down at all three airports. How does that make Burke worse? Airlines and general aviation have been suffering nationwide for the last 15+ years.

The best option would probably be to have the Metroparks take over the land. They seem to do a pretty good job judging by what they have done over the years. It would be protected park land open to all, and would most likely be managed properly.

Honestly, can we trust the local politicians to guarantee that? Look to the past for that answer.

The city has a lot of brown spaces that can be built upon, but are not utilized. And until the crumbling infrastructure of the neighborhoods, streets, and facilities are taken care of, the best option is to just leave it alone as suggested above for a "rainy day."

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Posted by yakc130 on 04/07/2018 at 10:44 AM

Re: “Lies, Damn Lies and the 450 Acres of Prime Real Estate That is Burke Lakefront Airport

Absolutely on the money. Where does this money go? Some into low paying jobs in everyday inside the airport jobs, and the rest benefited by the uber-rich. Of course the outer area on the lake will be taken in by higher income individuals. The rest? To those of us in the actual middle class. When we can start pushing main downtown towards the other thriving areas of Cleveland we will see real progress. It's about time we utilize our lakefront and this is stop two after the Euclid lakefront project.

For those above here complaining about crime, I challenge you to take a walk around main downtown Cleveland. I do it at least twice a week working my social media marketing job. It is not the "crime invested dump" you describe, but a thriving vibrant city filled with caring and wonderful people looking to create a bustling and forward thinking downtown metropolis.

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Posted by mashton on 04/06/2018 at 10:40 PM

Re: “Lies, Damn Lies and the 450 Acres of Prime Real Estate That is Burke Lakefront Airport

Wow, this article sounds Justin like it was written by a greedy property investor or contractor...

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Posted by Sean William Koltiska on 04/06/2018 at 9:12 PM

Re: “Lies, Damn Lies and the 450 Acres of Prime Real Estate That is Burke Lakefront Airport

The biggest problem with closing Burke is what may be built on the property. Given Cleveland's political climate - uber liberal - the odds are, it will be a giant public housing project that will generate zero taxes and increase crime. Cleveland caters to the lowest common denominator, that is why it has lost over 60% of its population.

If Cleveland were to utilize this property in the future, it needs to put something there that will actually produce tax revenue - high end housing and/or business - anything else will simply be another drain on the small segment of Westpark homeowners that pay the bulk of the city's taxes.

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Posted by eazybreezyone on 04/06/2018 at 5:57 PM

Re: “Lies, Damn Lies and the 450 Acres of Prime Real Estate That is Burke Lakefront Airport

How about we focus on the abandoned East side neighborhoods first? Fix what you have before moving onto new projects. Its great that you want to build up high rise apartments and condos (battery park) that bring people into the city, but no regular Joe can afford these new complexes, and are left with declining neighborhoods and infrastructure. And maybe its crass but I'm not all about bringing in more upper middle-class that just feed into the downtown/w 25th "Bro Douche-bag" culture. I just want a nice place to go with my family for dinner on a Friday night without having to dodge drunken frat boys. These people can obviously afford our current housing. So invest in that. But the new building raises property values which is great for some but it also has already affected housing cost in the more desirable neighborhoods like Gordon Square and Ohio City. Try and focus on the low income and lower middle class first please. I'm pretty sure you have more that 450 acres in The East side and Midtown that you can work with.

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Posted by Asher on 04/06/2018 at 2:31 PM

Re: “Lies, Damn Lies and the 450 Acres of Prime Real Estate That is Burke Lakefront Airport

I think Jackson should wreck the place the way Daley did and get rid of the airport. There are much better uses for that space. It's mostly fill so tall buildings are not an option. How about something like the Navy Pier in Chicago, but facing the Lake instead of going out on the Lake in a pier. The front of the buildings could have big garage-style doors that can be closed as they are in Chicago in the winter, protecting people from the savage winter winds. I also like the idea of the motor cross sports parks someone mentioned above. It's far enough away from most housing so the noise wouldn't be a problem. Another idea for some of the land is a small amusement park for little kids like Ontario Place in Toronto. There could also be trees, gardens, walkways, and playgrounds. There need to be more inexpensive activities for families to do Downtown. There are so many more interesting things we could have on our lakefront than that damned airport!

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Posted by Squid on 04/05/2018 at 7:34 PM

Re: “After 100 years, the Cleveland Orchestra Continues to Ignore Women, Minorities and Living Composers

I couldn't agree more with Leslie Edwards!
1.) A lot of any new art will fall away as "unmemorable" and what becomes a treasured classic is chosen by time, luck and perhaps to a certain extent you and me spreading enough recordings around today. That's why our favorite composers tend to be long gone. (Not all of us, of course.) Composing for our own small ensembles is the best way to proceed today.

2. ) Without a refresh of the "common practice period" of classical music, most Americans today have no idea HOW to use "sonatas," or other music without singers. My CutTime compositions address this using familiar elements of blues, pop, hip-hop, gospel, rock, etc.. Plus they feature good melodies, counterpoint and common development techniques like key modulations. It's possible to acculturate new listeners, even in bars and clubs.

3.) The value of diversity is that the marketable ideas are available to mix in, willingly or not. As an AA, I've appropriated classical music just as rock was appropriated from my roots. You have more advantage to exploit it better regardless, but that doesn't mean I'm giving up.

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Posted by MrCutTime on 04/05/2018 at 5:23 PM

Re: “Lies, Damn Lies and the 450 Acres of Prime Real Estate That is Burke Lakefront Airport

The truth is, Truth, that people...middle class people, suburban people, even WHITE people...are slowly starting to trickled back into the city and fill up all those pricey apartments and townhouses that are popping up like mushrooms after a rainstorm. Hell, yes, there is crime in Cleveland, and hell, yes, people get mugged and robbed and carjacked and murdered, but Cleveland is NOT the cesspool you describe.Plenty of people have no problem walking or driving most of the time, in most places. You just have to know where you need to avoid, and I am sure you do. But the lakefront is not one of them.

I know firsthand there is a thug problem, because I live in one of the more heavily targeted neighborhoods that the thugs prefer, because there is actually stuff that people own here that is worth trying to steal and fence. Butt I see right through your smoke-screen (excuse the pun) quite easily. You are obviously talking about black folks when you start using those tired right-wing, race-baiting buzzwords and catchphrases--dignity of those willing to rob you, live off welfare, tax dollars, law abiding people and taxpayers. Your keystrokes and spacing aren't all that's black and white.

Then there's that worn-out word "safe" again, and thugs showing up, and "prey", and " the optimistic, decent people", when you really mean "suburban white-bread folks" who are STILL afraid to go downtown. Like you probably are. I bet you're one of those East Siders who haven't been downtown in years and when you go anywhere, you need to be able to drive right into a parking garage and walk through a tunnel so that the "scum of the earth" that "infests" this city doesn't INFECT you. Or rob, mug, or kill you.

Your rant belongs elsewhere, at the comment boards of that NEO Media group you hate so much. or at a rally for His Orangeness, the next time he shows up in one of the distant suburbs. Enjoy staying home in your fenced-in back yard with your white trash friends and family. Don't bother coming into the city....it's scary and dangerous and we city folk can sure use the available parking space you don't occupy and the tickets you don't buy. Go barbecue some meat and watch some wrestling. Enjoy yourself.

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Posted by Grizz65 on 04/05/2018 at 3:30 PM

Re: “Lies, Damn Lies and the 450 Acres of Prime Real Estate That is Burke Lakefront Airport

I really appreciate this reporting. Whoever that 'Eat Me' guy in the comments section is should be forced to count the number of planes taking off and landing at Burke in 2018 by hand, from a tent, just outside the airport.

Burke strikes me as so bizarre. You can poke a lot of holes in potential development, but certainly there is SOMETHING better we can begin moving towards than an airport in slow decline.

We are spending bunches of bucks to investigate the possibility of a Hyperloop, but we won't look at developing some prime land under our own nose? The comparison to Cedar Point's footprint was crazy to me. What developer wouldn't drool over a site of that size, near multiple highways, near multiple population centers? Let's have some vision here, guys!

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Posted by Tim on 04/05/2018 at 1:57 PM

Re: “After 100 years, the Cleveland Orchestra Continues to Ignore Women, Minorities and Living Composers

Having formerly covered the classical music scene durng the 1990s in another medium-sized metropolis (Portland, Maine), including every concert by its symphony orchestra, for that state's largest daily, and being myselfa classical composer of some 60 years' experience, I am familiar with this complaint. It is valid as far as it goes. There are several caveats, however.

First, Jenny Holzeer's rule about 95% iof everything being crudapplies toany art form. There is a certain amount of crud being created in any art form (I have created some of it myself). The trouble is that sorting out what is crud from what is truly innovative and good is a matter of the test of time. Even if we had a Schumann as our critic to tell us "hats off -- a genius" when we manage to produce another Brahms, we wouldn't necessarily agree with it on a first hearing. (A classic example is the heartrendingly elegiac opening to the second movement of Brahms's German Requiem, which one critic dismissed at its premier as sounding altogether too much like a parlor waltz.) It seems to me disingenuous to savage a music director for reluctance to risk commiting the rehearsal and performance time, energy, and expense of some 60 musicians to a new piece that may well bomb at its premier and expect praise for it when we wiuld normally court-martial a captain who risks 60 soldiers on a tactical risk resulting in most of them becoming casualties. Alexander Pope's advice from Handel's time would still seem only prudent: "Be not the first by whom the new is tried,/Nor yet the last to lay the old aside." The larger the ensemble, the less daring one can afford to be; a string quartet can afford to take chances on new repertory that would be reckless for a full orchestra.

But what of music written before 1945 (the ASCAP cutoff in my reviewiing years for its "adventuresome" program recoghition)? To dismiss as racist and sexist an orchestra that shies away from music by nonwhites and women ignores the fact that for the most part they did not control the means of symphonic production:Clara Schumann wrote good stuff and everybody today recognizes that, but Robert had access to an orchestra to play his work, and she didn't. So what is really needed to remedy the problem of potentially canonical repertory may be to go back in time a century or two and remedy the inequity then -- which in the absence of reliable time-travel technology is presentkly not an option.To be sure, we could take a chamber piece by Clara Schumann and score it up for full orchestra, much as Schoenberg did forone of the Brahms piano quartets. (Indeed, this would make a very useful exercise for someone studying orchestration at school.) What we cannot do is to create retroactively an orchestral canon whose composers simply did not work in that genre.

Norcan we expect to have much luck educating the present-day audience to get its head around music that departs significantky by what is aptly called "common practice" composition. The dead white guys fiound a musical language that resonated with the rational Enlightenment and the romantic movement that arose in reaction to it; we understand Bach and Handel with our ears, hearts, and minds and so did the composers who came after them until the end of the next century, even down to Wagner and (early at least) Stravinsky. If we are to jar our audiences loose from this comfort zone,we had better have something to play for them that doesn't send them streaming to the exits. The obvious answer for music that "endeavor[s] not to entertain you, but to make you better," as Handel was supposed to have said to King George I (but undoubtedly knew better than to utter such an impertinence) is to put it on the first half of teh oprogram and save the chestnut pieces for after intermission. Duh.

And yes, money talks; deal with it. Louis XIV was renowned for his "24 violins," the biggest court orchestra of his day. Today's orchestras are three times that size and the economics of the business have changed markedly. We no longer have court ensembles funded by only by virtue of the sovereign's ability to exact crushing taxes out of a horde of peasants. We do have student-discounted tickets,in part because there are still a few angels here and there willing to help orchestras what would otherwise be a crippling cash shortfall. Ideally, such patrons would be altogether hands-off when it came to input about programming. In practice, anyone who made the money to give to an orchestra (or a museum, or a playhouse, or any other habitually capital-poor arts entity) earned it by running a successful enterprise with a constant eye to the bottom line, and if programming seems to such people to be a disincentive to the ordinary ticket-buying concertgoer, it would be irresponsible for them not to argue in favor of caution. Here the remedy is civic, state, and federal sponsorship, and unlike the time machine, this is an attainable goal: all you need do is go to the polls and vote out of office the culture-warrior know-nothings in your city, state, and federal government and replace them by people with a sense of commonwealth and at least a modicum of pride in the evergreen American potential for being a wellspring of the arts and not a backwater.
The problem Mr. de Oliveria identifies is real enough, and hardly confined to this city. And it won't solve itself, and certainly not by blaming the messenger. As the ancient Spartan poet Archilochus might have said, "Before you pick up the spear, make sure you know where to aim it."

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Posted by leslieedwards.humez on 04/05/2018 at 1:34 PM

Re: “Lies, Damn Lies and the 450 Acres of Prime Real Estate That is Burke Lakefront Airport

No need to close Burke to put up apartments until Cleveland gets crime under control. Crime makes Cleveland one of the most undesirable places in the USA to live. People cant walk, or even drive in safety in this city. Carjackings and armed robberies every day all over the city. Criminals are treated like the victims and get released back onto the streets quickly. We are more concerned about the dignity of those willing to rob you, kill you, or live off welfare with your tax dollars, than we are about protecting law abiding people and taxpayers.

Whos going to develop this land at Burke? Who would feel safe with thugs showing up at all cleveland attractions to prey on the optimistic, decent people trying to live in the city. Until Cleveland purges itself of the crime and those that support crime and the dignity of criminals (e.g., the NEO media Group), theres no need to close Burke.

Cleveland has incredible cultural and popular assets but its infested, INFESTED, with the scum of the earth and a federally funded system that finances them.

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Posted by Truth on 04/05/2018 at 12:59 PM

Re: “Lies, Damn Lies and the 450 Acres of Prime Real Estate That is Burke Lakefront Airport

As far as the traffic for the events previously this year, such as the RNC, NBA FINALS, and WORLD SERIES, these events utilized the airport to its full capacity. Although the federal government ask that Burke be a gateway airport to the RNC and subsequently it became a military base for all branches, its strategic importance to the event was vital. The NBA FINALS AND WORLD SERIES brought people from all over the world and high lighted this airport and Cleveland as a crown gem in the Midwest. Lets make sure you have all the facts and know what you are speaking or writing about before you go around and feel something is unjustifiable or useless when you know nothing at all. Driving the shoreway and looking at the airport for a few short minutes, does not constitute a belief it is not viable or important to our area. Spend a week and observe the comings and goings of this airport, and speak to the people who work at Burke before making the ignorant assumptions and comments.

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Posted by alroyal on 04/05/2018 at 11:29 AM

Re: “Lies, Damn Lies and the 450 Acres of Prime Real Estate That is Burke Lakefront Airport

Follow the money. Who contributes to the mayor and politicians supporting Burke. Mayor Daley from Chicago had the best intrests of his city in mind when he cut x's in the runways of Meigs field in 2003. Check it out.

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Posted by OSU MARK on 04/05/2018 at 8:58 AM

Re: “Lies, Damn Lies and the 450 Acres of Prime Real Estate That is Burke Lakefront Airport

Once again the ill-informed and the stupid come out with their opinions on Burke and always negative. The reality is, weather plays a great part in operations at all airports and sitting at Voinavich park in months like March can limit and will limit operations at Burke. Getting the opinions of so-called specialist like those who sit behind a desk and never see the light of day, puts less credibility into this writers article (with the first outside opinion by the last name of "Coyne" now that's a credible name).

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Posted by alroyal on 04/05/2018 at 8:44 AM

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