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Re: “My Weekend at a Northeast Ohio Nudist Camp

Great writing. Very interesting.

Posted by Hibetee Hoopla on 07/14/2017 at 8:13 PM

Re: “A Brave Never Tells

p.s. - if the media ever seizes on the hazing rituals after what just happened at Penn State the BSA would be in serious trouble. The loss of LDS is 185,000 fewer Scouts. Imagine what parents are okay with their kid being hazed at these rituals. #notsmart #notloyal #notbrave #notkind #notcourteous #nottrustworthy The entire ritual violates the very core of Scouting.

Posted by ChiefWatcha on 07/04/2017 at 4:06 AM

Re: “A Brave Never Tells

The problem with the Pipestone ritual is that it violates the Scout Law, the Scout Oath and the Youth Protection policy. In no way does the BSA condone any person physically forcing a child to their knees or picking them up or putting their hands over their mouths. The Scouts call this a ritual of courage. It is defined everywhere else in the country as hazing. The BSA has documents on council web-sites where the leaders say it is not "hazing or bullying" but the fact that they say that does not make it so. If you demean a child by shoving them to the ground for your ritual ceremony you are in fact hazing the child.

hazing
hziNG/
nounNorth American
noun: hazing; plural noun: hazings

the imposition of strenuous, often humiliating, tasks as part of a program of rigorous physical training and initiation.

The BSA allows the ritual to continue and forces the children to disobey the Scout Law - A Scout is Obedient. If a Scout parent asks about the ceremony the children are sworn to silence. Why would you ever train a child to not speak to their parents? That in and of itself violates "to keep myself mentally strong and morally straight" Is it "good fun?" So was the drinking at the fraternity party at Penn State until the kid died. Now 18 people will be heading to jail. If the ritual accidentally injures a Scout, what do you think the BSA's insurance will say, "Oh well, accident" or "Someone pushed a child into a fire by jumping out and scaring the shit out of him?" Yeah, no your insurance does not cover that. And God forbid, you jump and scare a child and they get injured, what defense does the BSA have against the parents lawsuit? Zero. It's a dangerous thing to do for a "ritual" that has lasted nearly 100 years. But the BSA and 7 Ranges tread on dangerous path with a ritual like this and it will one day backfire o them. I'm sure it already has and the child was silenced.

Posted by ChiefWatcha on 07/04/2017 at 4:01 AM

Re: “A Tiny Piece of Evidence Could Be the Key to Setting An Innocent Cleveland Man Free. Why Can't Anyone at the Justice Center Find It?

Yeah! That's it! All the police and detectives are corrupt. Surrrrrrrre

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Posted by Lyle chip chipperson on 06/14/2017 at 4:17 PM

Re: “A Tiny Piece of Evidence Could Be the Key to Setting An Innocent Cleveland Man Free. Why Can't Anyone at the Justice Center Find It?

This is infuriating and another example of how poorly run the court systems are. There is zero accountability or regard for people being tortured in this system. Innocent people sit in prison every single day. The people of the court need to be held accountable, corrupt police officers, detectives, and so forth need to be held accountable. Thank goodness for the Innocence Project - especially the Ohio innocence project. Looking into people like Michele Yezzo and such. Who single-handily has taken away people's lives in favor of fabricated evidence to suit the needs of the police.

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Posted by Amy 2 on 06/14/2017 at 11:25 AM

Re: “Gunning for Trouble

I know John. He is a good man. Justice prevailed. They should never have been indicted. God Bless you, Tiny!

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Posted by JT on 06/13/2017 at 8:55 PM

Re: “A Grieving Father Helped Bring a New Model of Fighting Heroin Addiction to Summit County, and It Might Change Everything

I would
like to offer what knowledge and experience I have come to understand about
addiction. Although I was never exposed to illegal narcotics I too know of
family and friends who were and/or still are today. Back in 1990 {when I
first moved away from home to pursue a Master's in Public Administration at
the University of Akron} I had the occasion to observe a lecture that
completely changed my life. It was a broadcast on WVIZ of John Bradshaw and
his series "On the Family." In essence his message is that children are
shame-based from a early age and retain this internal belief about
themselves throughout their lives. They inherit this from the family
systems that begat their parent, grandparents etcetera in what amounts to
{metaphorically} as the "sins of the fathers passed to the third and fourth
generation." Not only did I watch the entire series but all the rest as
well. The books brought even more clarity.

The theory helps one trace back the sources of their internal shame and
forces them to ask the question: is there really something wrong with me or
did someone just tell me I was {over and over again}. Bradshaw's concept is
not about blame but rather assigning responsibility because your parents and
their parents all fell victim to this self perpetuating system that
accentuates a belief that I am a mistake {shame} instead of I made a mistake
{guilt}. I believe this is one of the root causes for addiction not just to
heroin but as Bradshaw relates "any mood altering experience with life
damaging consequences." Think of the plethora of those that exist today.
In other words heroin is not the only addiction plaguing our society but
rather is a symptom of the sine qua non common denominator to all
addictions; a shame-based belief that there is something fundamentally
flawed about me to the point where I don't like being me so I addict myself
to something so I don't have to be the real me. Ultimately it is through
embracing the pain of being deceived that you will finally set yourself
free. This is difficult but can be done although it is a life-time
commitment. After one finally comes to terms with their own demons can they
truly say "Get behind me, Satan



PS: In the final analysis it all comes down to a person not liking who they
are so they seek an escape {albeit a temporary one} in order to avoid being
who they are. The question before the entire world is this: how do we as a
human race change this self perception in those who seek out
any mood altering experience with life damaging consequences?"

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Posted by Joe Bialek 1 on 06/08/2017 at 9:57 PM

Re: “A Grieving Father Helped Bring a New Model of Fighting Heroin Addiction to Summit County, and It Might Change Everything

People on both sides of this issue ("the druggies deserve to die" and "these drug users are poor victims") can agree on one thing. The current situation is out of control and many radical things needs to be done, from dramatically increasing jail sentences for drug dealers to a massive expansion of drug treatment centers.

Fortunately for me, none of my friends or their families have been struck with this curse. But after viewing that map, I now know what killed my neighbor last year.

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Posted by D. Miller on 06/07/2017 at 1:22 PM

Re: “Decoding the Cleveland Prestige Machine

As Sam usually does, this is great stuff.

Posted by Luke Wi on 05/23/2017 at 3:51 AM

Re: “A Brave Never Tells

I watched a boy vomit, and another get diarrhea from the potion. With no bathroom in sight. Why in world adults are making scouts drink bitter potion is beyond me. Nothing to do with scouting in my book. Hard to believe it is still allowed. This ritual stains a good camp in my view.

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Posted by Scouter on 05/22/2017 at 11:11 PM

Re: “Decoding the Cleveland Prestige Machine

Much of the country thinks of the Midwestern states, except for maybe Chicago, as just "flyover country". I've found lots to like in several of those states, and I firmly believe that Ohio has one of the strongest offerings among them as far as tourism. But without strong promotion, then it's going to be tough to get the word spread. You need people to say good things about you, because it is absolutely true that there's always plenty wrong with any area. And Cleveland and even just Ohio in general have taken a lot of blows to the face over the last 50 years.

Which is why it is such a joke to divert dollars away from tourism promotion to refurbish an arena. We know the Cavs will eventually suck again, but all of our restaurants and breweries and hotels will still be here...and the money and goodwill they generate stays local much more than a winning sports franchise.

It never ceases to amaze me how short-sighted and small-thinking civic leaders are here. That $44 million could help to attract some serious revenue to the city over the years. But instead of investing in marketing the region, they're squandering it on a glass cathedral because the church promised to fund their political career.

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Posted by Lee Hawkins on 05/21/2017 at 10:12 AM

Re: “Welcome to East Cleveland

Nice story, but does anyone know exactly how East Cleveland went from a city that was controlled 100% by whites to becoming controlled 100% by black in 1969? Read the Cleveland Plain Dealer for the true story. All this happened in one election, and there was one person responsible for the peaceful change in the power structure. Do your homework, study your African American history.

Posted by Offie Wortham on 05/19/2017 at 2:11 PM

Re: “Decoding the Cleveland Prestige Machine

Nearly all of these lists, surveys. and rankings come out of the same place...the back end of a horse...because they are generated by horses' asses who poop out that same tired horse crap, year after year after year, much of it heavily weighted toward the glitzier cities...the usual. Boston-NYC-Miami-LA-Seattle-San Francisco crap. It's offal!

Forty essential restaurants...thirty best brew pubs...top ten public toilets...when desperate for a story that's all too easy to put together (and puts the reader to sleep)...just fall back on the "numbers game"...as all the other websites do...forty coolest beach towns on the planet... top ten ballparks...blah blah blah.

All editors and writers do this when in a jam and on deadline (been there, done both), and it's really old, stale, and lame. Pointless, mindless, meaningless click-bait, bait-and-switch stories...and all of it should just be ignored.

Then there are the 33 reasons college grads should move here...or there...or wherever...followed by the ten paradise beaches they should walk on. Surveys, lists, numbered rankings. It's all the same hype and horse manure., designed to make people feel better about where they ended up living.

Please, SCENE, please, PLEASE don't start doing the numbered lists and/or "good stuff" about NE Ohio, compared to elsewhere.. Or ranking the cities and bragging or complaining about where Cleveland sits on those lists.

If one wants to read endless numbered lists and shlep through those annoying slideshows that are designed specifically to increase the number of "clicks"... go search out the zillion travel websites, or subscribe to Cleveland Magazine or Lake Erie Living.

Give us a break! Don't follow that stupid trend here! Please? PLEASE?

COMING UP NEXT: One hundred and one things to do this summer...one a day, every day, between Memorial Day and Labor Day...oh, wait, the PD already did that. Or was it Ohio Magazine? Probably both.

Gotta tell ya, though...SCENE'S Cleveland bucket lists were fun, and cool. A hundred things every Clevelander needs to do before they die. Eighty down, twenty to go, if I counted right. Not bad for having been here just 25 years.

Chuckles the Clown

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Posted by Chuckles the Clown on 05/18/2017 at 11:50 PM

Re: “Decoding the Cleveland Prestige Machine

Well done, Sam!...It is in the interests of our local civic oligarchs to hide behind this kind of Potemkin Village happy-talk as a means to distract from...or justify...their continuing campaign to rape local taxpayers in order to build the toys that make the Men Behind The Curtain richer, at the expense of those who can't afford to play with those toys...I was at Progressive Field a couple nights ago for the first time in awhile, and VERY noticeable are the newer design elements intended to keep "us" separated from "them."...That sort of segregation by income is at the center of the strategy for our local economic development "leaders." Cleveland is beginning, more and more, to resemble a third-world country which is dependent on tourism: a gleaming playground for those of means, surrounded by urban human devastation which our more affluent residents quickly drive through or around because it's all so...unpleasant...

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Posted by sputteringwithoutrage on 05/17/2017 at 3:44 PM

Re: “Decoding the Cleveland Prestige Machine

It is mostly hyperbole for hire....with a significant price tag per adjective.

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Posted by LakeErieSeaGulls on 05/17/2017 at 11:24 AM

Re: “Tomb With a View

Glad to see people are still paying attention to this issue. I wish the people affected would be around to see change, but I'm doubtful the pollution will ever be cleaned up. There aren't enough people being affected by it for it turn into a big enough issue to force change (think Tom's River for anyone familiar) Because, the reality remains it's all about that money, money, money. That's why they dumped industrial waste in peoples' back yards to begin with, because it made them a lot of money. Never mind what happens to other people... I see I never got an answer back from Big Boyas, and his comment has been removed. Surprise, surprise, the cowards hide when someone their own size comes to see them ,same as they do in Afghanistan. God bless all those people in the valley.

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Posted by US Soldier on 05/15/2017 at 5:43 PM

Re: “The Jig Is Up

Fuck. I was going to go there in a few months when I was back in town. Bummer. Used to hang here in the 80's.

Posted by Tinter5280 on 05/11/2017 at 3:18 PM

Re: “Inside the Investigation that Brought Down a West Sixth Street Cocaine Dealer

I dont care call me its Porscha 2165511463.

Posted by pcampbe5 on 05/08/2017 at 11:22 PM

Re: “In the Push to Carve Up Northeast Ohio With Natural Gas Pipelines, Property Owners Are Winning So Far, But the Fight's Not Over

No one seems to realize that this is what keeps America great. You would be suffering if we did not have info structure in America.
For you who don't support pipelines on our county, turn off all the power in your homes park your vehicles and then go try to live without the resources that make your life so easy.

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Posted by Working American on 05/03/2017 at 6:25 AM

Re: “Ghosts Of Wayne County

Tge girks were killed by Cook brother serial killers but media police wish to cover it up because the perps were black men

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Posted by Joe on 04/25/2017 at 5:06 AM

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