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Re: “Uptown Was Supposed to be a Unique Destination, But Critics Say It’s Become a Bland Fast-Casual Food Court

It starts with the name, what kind of ridiculous name is UPTOWN, with the exception of Moca the architecture is boring and plain, it reminds me to the new east flats, looks like cardboard boxes stacked.

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Posted by David Enrique Fernandez on 01/16/2019 at 10:33 PM

Re: “Uptown Was Supposed to be a Unique Destination, But Critics Say It’s Become a Bland Fast-Casual Food Court

From the very beginning of the redevelopment, Uptown has always felt like another Crocker Park or Legacy Village...I have always. since Day One, called it "Yuptown"...this is a "student neighborhood?" In whose bad dreams? If Euclid Avenue is the future of the "urban experience" and what Case Western graduates are going to remember about their college days in the years to come...it is enough to move an observing geezer to tears.

I have never understood the profusion of Asian fusion places...is that what Millennials and college students prefer these days? Or did entrepreneurial developers foolishly believe that they were catering to the masses of students from other countries who supposedly prefer such fare? Hence the overwhelming propensity toward "rice bowl" outlets. That is not meant to be a racist snark, and if it comes across as such, I sincerely apologize. But the demographics and the number of such places on Euclid can hardly be a coincidence.

The old Euclid Tavern felt like a student bar...and so did the Happy Dog. What will replace it? Probably nothing. "Jimmy Johns" is not a college hangout. "Barnes and Noble" cannot be considered to be a "college-town bookstore." And "Uptown" will never be anything like a downtown Ann Arbor or a High Street in Columbus. Hell, it'll never even be another downtown Kent..."Uptown" is not a "Downtown' anything...and it's nothing more than a "suburb in the city" for over-privileged college kids and wealthy foreign students...and something of a sick joke.

I would gladly forego all their fusion joints for one good deli serving comfort food. But those on the academic and medical campuses don't want one...or a home-style place like a Sokolowski's. That's too Old Cleveland. Uptown is the New Cleveland they want. And they can have it. I go to Severance and the CMA and CIM fairly regularly. But not Yuptown. No reason to bother doing so.

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Posted by No fan of the new and the shiny on 01/16/2019 at 6:59 PM

Re: “Uptown Was Supposed to be a Unique Destination, But Critics Say It’s Become a Bland Fast-Casual Food Court

In 1990 I worked for a company that helped build Triangle properties. I t was meant to be a mixed retail development and was funde by a low interest government loan. 30 years later they tore it down for my retail

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Posted by Martin F Lance on 01/16/2019 at 6:00 PM

Re: “Uptown Was Supposed to be a Unique Destination, But Critics Say It’s Become a Bland Fast-Casual Food Court

To be clear, ABC Uptown is more popular than ever! As arts and culture become more and more exciting to the masses, we all prosper. It's been a rough go but we believe in all the urban neighborhoods in cleveland. We wish there were more places like us, but that will come. PS I think it's great that we have many Asian options. It's just that none feel home grown, all too fast casual, none where you want to pass some time. Wish we had that!

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Posted by aglazen on 01/16/2019 at 3:11 PM

Re: “Uptown Was Supposed to be a Unique Destination, But Critics Say It’s Become a Bland Fast-Casual Food Court

I think you have to go back a few years to find Uptown's problem. It's the 60s when the area could have grown naturally but for the corporate interests that didn't allow the area to be what it was - space for not wealthy occupants or visitors but a place for ordinary people. d. a. levy must be smiling at the latest dilemma caused by those who put profit over people. It should remain bland and unsuccessful.
Roldo Bartimole

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Posted by Roldo Bartimole on 01/16/2019 at 2:25 PM

Re: “Uptown Was Supposed to be a Unique Destination, But Critics Say It’s Become a Bland Fast-Casual Food Court

Two things:

1) The Leases at University Circle are too high. Businesses wont survive with that much overhead with a already decreasing population.

2) Nobody wanted Happy Dog, Zack Bruell, Corner Alley, or any other West Side Gentrified concept. This is the East Side. Cleveland always thinks catering to yuppie white millennials is the answer. Then people laugh when one of your Burger/Taco restaurants fail. Put some cool shit in University Circle. As of right now outside of a couple museums the place is lame as fuck. I don't go over there at all anymore. Catch me Downtown.

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Posted by Downtown Cleveland Guy on 01/16/2019 at 2:04 PM

Re: “Uptown Was Supposed to be a Unique Destination, But Critics Say It’s Become a Bland Fast-Casual Food Court

Imagine being a hard working Asian or Indian restaurant operator, catering to international clientele in the most diverse neighborhood of Cleveland, and Scene magazine says you're nothing better than a food court because you don't sell hipster hot dogs or a gourmet burger.

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Posted by CLE resident on 01/16/2019 at 1:58 PM

Re: “Uptown Was Supposed to be a Unique Destination, But Critics Say It’s Become a Bland Fast-Casual Food Court

Cleveland urbanites (and suburbanites) find a neighborhood that doesn't cater to them and they are up in arms about it. Why do the locally owned Asian and Indian restaurants (Indians Flame, Otani, Nu Joy, Chopsticks, Kenko, Phusion etc etc) not count as local independents? Seems like the market isn't there to support these other "locals" - what's wrong with that?

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Posted by Anon on 01/16/2019 at 11:24 AM

Re: “Uptown Was Supposed to be a Unique Destination, But Critics Say It’s Become a Bland Fast-Casual Food Court

And...thanks to the numerous, cheaply constructed, postage-stamp sized, way overpriced, tax-abated condos going up everywhere, guess who gets stuck paying the huge property tax bills????

Its time for Taxin Jackson and Budish to both be recalled from office, and sent to right to jail for their constant shenanigans and financial mismanagement of taxpayer funds!!!!

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Posted by What a Dump! on 01/16/2019 at 10:56 AM

Re: “Uptown Was Supposed to be a Unique Destination, But Critics Say It’s Become a Bland Fast-Casual Food Court

A Night Market or pop-up food and art stands in the summer would be a perfect fit for that Alley. I do agree that parking is a problem there. I live nearby and drive into one of the parking lots and grab and go so that I don't overstay the free parking time slot. I have no incentive to sit and enjoy a meal. It's impossible to find free parking in that area, but if I'm going to spend a fair amount of money on a sit-down meal I don't want to have to pay even more for parking. Parking validation would go a long way to help that and encourage people to sit and dine.

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Posted by bonnjill on 01/16/2019 at 10:39 AM

Re: “Uptown Was Supposed to be a Unique Destination, But Critics Say It’s Become a Bland Fast-Casual Food Court

Fast casual is the curse of the dining scene and its certainly not right for university circle except at a minimal level. No charm whatsoever. Whats the rush anyway? And why are they 90% taco places? Its just pathetic.

Uptown missed the charm and vibe of Coventry and the sophistication of cedar Fairmount. Of course Coventry has diversityed itself beyond reason and it impossible to get roast turkey or beef, chicken soup or even spaghetti and meatballs. And the Chinese restaurant needs to be cleaned, ckesned cleaned. And they need to clear out their sauce bottles and a risky wash them. Why are Asian restaurants always so sticky and grimy?

But Coventry lost what it used to have. The draw for not just the students and young people, but the draw for their parents. Uptown has the same problem. Stop catering only to the low budget student and the vegan and vegetarian tastes. And while youre trying to be so edgy and diverse, try introducing the diverse crowd to plain old fashion American food as well. It was pretty good too and you cant get it anywhere anymore. How many humus, taco snd sushi places do we need?

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Posted by Blah on 01/16/2019 at 10:08 AM

Re: “Uptown Was Supposed to be a Unique Destination, But Critics Say It’s Become a Bland Fast-Casual Food Court

As someone who lives in University Circle, I'm darned pleased with the changes, especially having a bank and a grocery store within walking distance of home. I bet the students who live here appreciate that as well.

I will say putting a bowling alley here was a bit weird. I don't know any bowlers, much less in the UC area. Glad to see the space will soon be filled by a restaurant specializing in tacos. Now THAT'S something anyone living on a budget, especially college students. can appreciate!

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Posted by Rubberband Girl on 01/16/2019 at 9:37 AM

Re: “Uptown Was Supposed to be a Unique Destination, But Critics Say It’s Become a Bland Fast-Casual Food Court

Youre forgetting to mention Jolly Scholar Brewery.

That place continues to expand production and is a destination.

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Posted by Mike G on 01/16/2019 at 9:35 AM

Re: “Uptown Was Supposed to be a Unique Destination, But Critics Say It’s Become a Bland Fast-Casual Food Court

You had affluent east siders and U circle professionals looking for new places to eat. Then you brought in those west side resterfanteurs and their rude waiters to push w25th st fare. Didnt work. Too much focus on student taste. They needed to focus on the upscale theater and orchestra crowd and the more affluent graduate and medical students. Places like nightgown and lalbatross and most of little Italy have no problem drawing upscale diners. Stop trying to me what millenials think is cool and focus on what people with means actually eat. It doesnt have to be the obscure nouvelle weird aioli, remoullade and goat cheese tainted dishes. Something like cedar creek grille or a decent non-sushi Asian like Ho Wah or Asian Pearl. Clean places with good chefs. Even a place like pickwick would be ok. Not everyone wants to eat fast casual or super gourmet but overpriced and unidentifiable food. What ever happened to a corky and Lennys type place? But one that can make a real potato pancake like joes international restaurant used to make. Why not Italian. A decent old fashioned Italian place would work. Something like m Italian in chagrin falls. That would work perfectly.

Dont try to be so cutting edge and bring a decent restaurant or two. It will change things for the better.

And try changing the facades of those metal buildings on Euclid so they look more like townhouses instead of a huge railroad dining car. What were the architects thinking.

All I can say about the area is thank goodness its not just vacant buildings anymore. Time for some new thinkers in U Circle. The old ones have gone Stalins please, stop trying to infuse more of that subpar Ohio city, unsophisticated chic. Although it appeals to the pedestrian taste of Strongsville, Westlake and Rocky river, it wont cut it in university circle.

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Posted by Ieatreslfood on 01/16/2019 at 9:08 AM

Re: “Uptown Was Supposed to be a Unique Destination, But Critics Say It’s Become a Bland Fast-Casual Food Court

Cleveland is a gritty, poor and undereducated city, that shrinks daily.
Why do planners seem to think we are anything else? Because the developers can easily flatter the local politicians, make them believe the hype, and then line their own pockets at taxpayer expense.
We wont be New York. Heck, we may not even be Columbus.
Start with teaching people how to go to work.

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Posted by Uptown, downtown, notown on 01/16/2019 at 8:42 AM

Re: “After His Mom's Overdose Death, a Heroin Addict Confronts Recovery in Cleveland

Thank you RANDOMAN. I was grieving quite severely when I commented on this matter and my anger for the whole situation was apparent in my words. Honestly I feel good expressing what I was feeling at that moment in time however, as I approach the next anniversary of his passing I am just grateful that I was lucky enough to even be his friend and how fortunate I was to have pieces of his time and to acquire the many memories him and I shared despite being in active addiction together as we were at times. Today I have grown even more and I realize that my expectations of others is inconsequential to the subject at hand and it is not within my human right to judge others actions or inactions because of the way I feel. In retrospect I wish I could have been at a more forgiving place for people in his life that purported to care so much about him however I can only feel the way I was feeling at the time and grow from my experiences. This horrible episode has taught me a lot about myself and it makes me smile to know that Nick is still teaching me things even in the afterlife and I still mourn him everyday and I will continue to celebrate him and his mother every year and that is something that is on me and what I need to do for myself and not be in Judgment of people who don't express their emotions the same way that I do. I guess what I'm saying is I appreciate your kind words despite the fact that I was quite emotional when I commented on this article and being one of the subjects in this article, I was chosen because of how close him and I were. I will remain grateful that I had him in my life and the things that he has taught me in our years together and I will continue to keep his memory alive as long as I, myself, am alive. I just wanted to express that to you and let you know it was nice to get comfort from a stranger who clearly saw through my mixed emotions and grief and saw that it was only love for him that made me so passionate about keeping him alive, keeping his place in history and that is what is important to me when it comes to my friend. God bless you.

Posted by Karyn F on 01/14/2019 at 4:47 PM

Re: “After His Mom's Overdose Death, a Heroin Addict Confronts Recovery in Cleveland

Thank you randoman. I was grieving quite severely when I commented on this matter and my anger for the whole situation was apparent in my words. Honestly I feel good expressing what I was feeling at that moment in time however, as I approach the next anniversary of his passing I am just grateful that I was lucky enough to even be his friend and how fortunate I was to have pieces of his time and to acquire the many memories him and I shared despite being in active addiction together as we were at times. Today I have grown even more and I realize that my expectations of others is inconsequential to the subject at hand and it is not within my human right to judge others actions or inactions because of the way I feel. In retrospect I wish I could have been at a more forgiving place for people in his life that purported to care so much about him however I can only feel the way I was feeling at the time and grow from my experiences. This horrible tragedy has taught me a lot about myself and it makes me smile to know that Nick is still teaching me things even in the afterlife and I still mourn him everyday and I will continue to celebrate him and his mother every year and that is something that is on me and what I need to do for myself and not be in Judgment of people who don't express their emotions the same way that I do. I guess to sum it up I'm saying thank you for your words of encouragement & understanding. I am learning just like everyone else to deal with the pain of losing my friend and how you must continue to fight and move on but without ever forgetting where you came from or the love you had for The Departed. It gives me Comfort knowing that he is around me during these times when I am missing him so badly and it was very thoughtful for you to engage me. Thanks again and God bless you.

Posted by Karyn F on 01/14/2019 at 4:34 PM

Re: “A Brave Never Tells

Secrecy, huh? As a part of this very respected association, I think that someone has gone against the values of pipestone. Even though it isn't considered a secret society, this article really shouldn't reveal all of the secrets of this sacred ceremony. And to all that think that this is B.S., it most certainly is NOT, but it is pretty awesome.

Posted by Oliver Sah on 01/14/2019 at 7:21 AM

Re: “Inside the Biggest Heroin Bust in Northeast Ohio History

Snitched on theirself with a movie...pffff dumbasses

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Posted by Rick R on 01/13/2019 at 1:55 AM

Re: “15 Things You Need to Know About Cleveland Music in 2019

Good job rock hall! a hand me down exhibit from NYC

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Posted by Second Hand on 01/10/2019 at 8:17 AM

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