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Re: “Turf Wars and Philosophical Divisions in Ohio City ... Again

I was not misquoted and Sam described the thrust of the comments I made correctly.
"Naysayer" was however used by me to refer not to development but to the form that it has taken in one neighborhood.
"Density" as a principle is the idea that increased population fosters stores, public transport, and improvements in neighborhoods that would not otherwise be possible with a smaller population.
But that is the case for all neighborhoods. In other cities the permission to build or convert in one neighborhood is tied to development in other areas. Or to development that follows a plan that speaks to more than the class of people who can afford 1,200 mo. for a one bedroom apartment (a sign at Edge 32, a new high rise on West 32nd st.) Or five times that for larger spaces in that building.
Most of the grassy lots of Sam's childhood had houses on them before "Ohio City" existed.
Turning those and other spaces over to developers who, perhaps legitimately from their perspective, are going for maximum return on their money rather than planning what would be of a more general benefit to both this neighborhood and to the entire city is short sighted and not to the advantage of one neighborhood or generally to my city, Cleveland.

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Posted by donttakelifesoserious on 10/11/2017 at 12:26 PM

Re: “The Beachland's Waterloo

Above I said that the Near West Theater was central to the W. 65th revival. That theater is supposed to move to the area soon, joining the institution I meant to credit for the neighborhood revival, the Cleveland Public Theater the multi decade pioneer and base institution for the W. 65th revival.
If you feel strongly about this issue go to the Beachland website and sign their petition to city leaders. It's a little hard to find, but noodle around & you'll see it.

Posted by donttakelifesoserious on 08/21/2011 at 1:06 AM

Re: “The Beachland's Waterloo

I live in the Near West Side, renamed by developers, Ohio City. Dozens of businesses have opened and closed here over my 40 years. Because the name businesses are mostly bars and restaurants there was little multiplier effect until recently. Now actual retail business are starting to take hold. Why? Hard to say, but it has taken 40 years.
Contrast that to the W. 65th area where one institution, Near West Theater has acted as an anchor for business, shops, a movie theater, good affordable housing, trendy bars & eateries. Did the preexistence of Ohio City help? Sure. But the dynamic was very different.
Waterloo/Collinwood is similar to W. 65th. One institution sparked general development. You remove that spark however and there is little to continue the flowering. I go to Beachland, look at shops, have eaten there, but would never have visited without the Ballroom. And I am a Clevelander. If I were still young I might have moved there for the same reasons that I came to the Near West Side decades ago.
Want to kill the city? Force out the sparks that make people want to live & visit here.

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Posted by donttakelifesoserious on 08/17/2011 at 1:08 PM


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