In the back, behind the cashier, two hulking, uniformed police officers huddle around a table. They could be any cops in America, except that this coffee shop happens to sit in the center of the Cleveland Clinic, somewhere between the pharmacy and the gynecologist, and the cops are not your average law-enforcement team.
They’re part of a force of roughly 200 police and security guards privately employed by the Clinic. They earn up to $60,000 a year, and their main goal is to help elderly ladies and Arab sheiks feel safe in an East Side neighborhood featuring gas-station bums and abandoned buildings.
It’s a sweet gig. Unlike their colleagues at the neighboring Fifth District Police Station, these cops don’t have to worry about chasing down drug lords or street gangs. Most of their days are spent unlocking doors, breaking up spats between family members, booting out guys who wander into the hospital to try to bum a smoke. Some days, they’re stuck tracking down toilet-paper thieves.
“I would compare them to a suburban police force,” says a Clinic employee, who used to make coffee for the cops working third shift. “They’re more community service.”
But that doesn’t mean they don’t have power. All of the uniformed guards at the hospital carry guns. Those who trained at the police academy are even allowed to carry semiautomatic weapons while driving the streets. Others, known as security guards, just wield revolvers and patrol the hospital corridors.
While Clinic cops may look like city police, ex-employees of the Clinic tell stories that would make a Law & Order fan cringe. One former guard is remembered for leaving his gunbelt at the children’s rehab hospital–overnight. Another was fired after she fell asleep in her patrol car. A third officer somehow neglected to inform his superiors when shots were fired near the Intercontinental Hotel.
“They’re good at finding us trouble; that’s about it,” says one Fifth District cop.
Adds another officer: “They are seriously glorified security guards — at a very good pay rate.”
Recently, a new chief arrived to clean up the ranks. John Kalavsky came to the job with a recommendation from the Ohio Association of Chiefs of Police as well as an inflated sense of mission. In the past year and a half, he fired at least seven people and started lobbying to have the Clinic force accredited by a national law-enforcement group. According to Clinic PR chief Eileen Sheil, he’s “done an outstanding job.”
But others, including some of the officers whom he fired, find his zero-tolerance attitude a bit hypocritical in light of his own less-than-exemplary past.
A decade ago, Kalavsky was forced to resign his post as police chief in Warrensville Heights, after he was caught using a crime-fighting computer system to dig up dirt on city employees and political opponents of Mayor Raymond Grabow. Kalavsky was eventually indicted for theft in office and forgery, but managed to escape the charges by testifying against Grabow. Soon afterward, several former city council candidates sued Kalavsky and the mayor for violating their civil rights. The suit was later dismissed.
Yet Kalavsky hasn’t been so forgiving of his employees’ transgressions, holding them to a high standard.
“Chief Kalavsky wanted the Cleveland Clinic to be one of the top 10 police departments in the state of Ohio,” says one former security guard. “So he was willing to do anything.”
This grand plan was tested last December, when a Clinic cop launched a high-speed chase that ended in a fatal crash.
Around 9:30 p.m. on December 7, a young man jumped into an idling Honda near a deli on Euclid Avenue and raced east down the construction-riddled street.
A Clinic cop spotted the car careening blindly down the street and pursued it for three miles. Speeding past Severance Hall and Case Western Reserve’s campus, the caravan hurtled into East Cleveland.
The chase ended near Eddy Road in an explosion of splintered glass and metal. The Honda smashed into a utility pole, a fire hydrant, and a bus-stop sign, sending the driver’s body flying like a rag doll into the street.
Such fatal crashes usually bring out the glaring TV cameras and solemn PR speeches, but Chief Kalavsky has remained eerily silent. When contacted by Scene, Kalavsky’s secretary referred all questions to Sheil, who refused to grant an interview. In fact, the PR chief never responded to a request for basic information about the police force, including its budget and policies — information that is required by law of municipal police forces such as the Cleveland Police.
It appears that the esteemed hospital would rather pretend it doesn’t have a police department at all. The force is housed in a drab, easy-to-miss building on Euclid; no flashing lights or patriotic color schemes — just a white lightbulb with tiny black letters that spell “police.” To enter, you need to be buzzed in past the locked doors.
But when you press the red button, the disembodied voice offers little help. “We don’t give out police reports,” she says.
And that’s how you know you’ve come to the right place.
This article appears in Feb 14-20, 2007.
I feel it was a well written article with factual details. Lisa Rab is an incredible reporter. I admire her persistence in getting at the truth. My question after reading the article is where is the officers that were terminated in the last year and a half second chance like Chief John Kalavsky was given by the Cleveland Clinic Police Department when he was promoted to chief. His zero-tolerance attitude is hypocritical, given his past. Chief Kalavsky was indicted for felonies. What was he thinking? His charges were more serious than what some of the officers that were let go for.
I feel it was a well written article with factual details. Lisa Rab is an incredible reporter. I admire her persistence in getting at the truth. My question after reading the article is where is the officers that were terminated in the last year and a half second chance like Chief John Kalavsky was given by the Cleveland Clinic Police Department when he was promoted to chief. His zero-tolerance attitude is hypocritical, given his past. Chief Kalavsky was indicted for felonies. What was he thinking? His charges were more serious than what some of the officers that were let go for.
Sounds like another place for wanna be cops to go so that they can wear a badge and gun and try and overcome their personal shortcomings. TYPICAL of cops.
Sounds like another place for wanna be cops to go so that they can wear a badge and gun and try and overcome their personal shortcomings. TYPICAL of cops.
I think you failed to mention that the cleveland clinic campus lies in one of the most impoverished, high crime areas in cleveland. Did it ever occur to you that the employees, guests, and the politically incorrect(arabs)you referred to need police to monitor the area becuase if they did not these innocent people would be beaten and robbed the minute they crossed 93rd and Euclid. The Clinic campus is well protected by these officers and is the safest 10 square blocks in Cleveland because the drug dealers and “gang bangers” know that these officers are serious about protecting this area. These are highly skilled,commissioned police offciers that protect the lives of the people in their city. You should be weary of pointing fingers becuase you may find yourself needing them one day when Cleveland does not have the time to respond.
I think you failed to mention that the cleveland clinic campus lies in one of the most impoverished, high crime areas in cleveland. Did it ever occur to you that the employees, guests, and the politically incorrect(arabs)you referred to need police to monitor the area becuase if they did not these innocent people would be beaten and robbed the minute they crossed 93rd and Euclid. The Clinic campus is well protected by these officers and is the safest 10 square blocks in Cleveland because the drug dealers and “gang bangers” know that these officers are serious about protecting this area. These are highly skilled,commissioned police offciers that protect the lives of the people in their city. You should be weary of pointing fingers becuase you may find yourself needing them one day when Cleveland does not have the time to respond.
It would be interesting to see what type of action Chief Kalavsky would take against one of his current officers who were to commit the same crimes that he committed while working at the Warrensville Heights P.D. And would he hire an applicant with the same background that he has? It’s time to take a look in the mirror for a reality check before boasting of a national police accreditation.
It would even be more interesting if you were to ask Chief Kalavsky for a copy of the Cleveland Clinic Police – vehicle pursuit policy. What were the exigent circumstances that warranted a “high speed” pursuit which resulted in the loss of a suspect’s life? Would the Cleveland City Police have pursued under the same circumstances? Was the suspect a threat to another persons life when he stole the vehicle, or did he become a threat to public safety after the Clinic Police initiated a pursuit?
It would be interesting to see what type of action Chief Kalavsky would take against one of his current officers who were to commit the same crimes that he committed while working at the Warrensville Heights P.D. And would he hire an applicant with the same background that he has? It’s time to take a look in the mirror for a reality check before boasting of a national police accreditation.
It would even be more interesting if you were to ask Chief Kalavsky for a copy of the Cleveland Clinic Police – vehicle pursuit policy. What were the exigent circumstances that warranted a “high speed” pursuit which resulted in the loss of a suspect’s life? Would the Cleveland City Police have pursued under the same circumstances? Was the suspect a threat to another persons life when he stole the vehicle, or did he become a threat to public safety after the Clinic Police initiated a pursuit?
It is absurd that an individual who has a history of criminal conduct (especially while serving as a chief of police) could maintain a police officer position, not to mention another appointment as a police chief. Apparently the clinic does not take law enforcement seriously. Professional law enforcement agencies conduct thorough background investigations on their applicants. An individual who has a history of criminal conduct is a liability for a law enforcement agency. Known criminals can not be trusted to be truthful. This is why tremendous efforts are made (by most departments) to prevent criminals from becoming law enforcement officers. I wonder if the Ohio Association of Chiefs of Police is aware of the background of the person whom they recommended?
There are probably a few talented, intelligent and experienced officers employed by the Cleveland Clinic. Those who fall into this category should be cautious of their compromising endeavor with this security agency. If they are interested in a career in law enforcement, it may be in their best interest to seek employment with a “law enforcement agency.” Preferable under leadership constructed of true honesty and integrity.
It is absurd that an individual who has a history of criminal conduct (especially while serving as a chief of police) could maintain a police officer position, not to mention another appointment as a police chief. Apparently the clinic does not take law enforcement seriously. Professional law enforcement agencies conduct thorough background investigations on their applicants. An individual who has a history of criminal conduct is a liability for a law enforcement agency. Known criminals can not be trusted to be truthful. This is why tremendous efforts are made (by most departments) to prevent criminals from becoming law enforcement officers. I wonder if the Ohio Association of Chiefs of Police is aware of the background of the person whom they recommended?
There are probably a few talented, intelligent and experienced officers employed by the Cleveland Clinic. Those who fall into this category should be cautious of their compromising endeavor with this security agency. If they are interested in a career in law enforcement, it may be in their best interest to seek employment with a “law enforcement agency.” Preferable under leadership constructed of true honesty and integrity.
Excellent article by Miss Rab! This article was brought to my attention by a fellow collegue. Good comments from Warb Jablarski and Bill Hollyfield written below. My secretary’s husband is affiliated with the Ohio Chiefs of Police Association. I’ll determine if they are aware of Kalavsky’s criminal behavior at Warrensville Hts. P.D. As Americans, we deserve only the finest persons to protect and serve.
Excellent article by Miss Rab! This article was brought to my attention by a fellow collegue. Good comments from Warb Jablarski and Bill Hollyfield written below. My secretary’s husband is affiliated with the Ohio Chiefs of Police Association. I’ll determine if they are aware of Kalavsky’s criminal behavior at Warrensville Hts. P.D. As Americans, we deserve only the finest persons to protect and serve.
Connor Peterson why don’t you put on a bullet resistant vest on very day and try and make a difference in the world. You pretend to know what you are talking about but you don’t have a clue, TYPICAL of know dumb asses.
Connor Peterson why don’t you put on a bullet resistant vest on very day and try and make a difference in the world. You pretend to know what you are talking about but you don’t have a clue, TYPICAL of know dumb asses.
A few months ago I was visiting the clinic for an appointment. I was in my car at the entrance of the Krilo building when I noticed that I was going to have an uncontrollable discharge. I advised a kind officer. He promptly returned to my car with a fresh bed pan and some newspaper. It is a crying shame that someone has stolen the toilet paper.
A few months ago I was visiting the clinic for an appointment. I was in my car at the entrance of the Krilo building when I noticed that I was going to have an uncontrollable discharge. I advised a kind officer. He promptly returned to my car with a fresh bed pan and some newspaper. It is a crying shame that someone has stolen the toilet paper.
I’m sorry to hear that the young man parished in the crash. He was wrong for stealing the car, but he did not deserve to die. Did he have any family? Did he suffer? Was he gurgling on his own blood and flopping in a pool of urine after the crash? Or was he just stone cold dead.
I’m sorry to hear that the young man parished in the crash. He was wrong for stealing the car, but he did not deserve to die. Did he have any family? Did he suffer? Was he gurgling on his own blood and flopping in a pool of urine after the crash? Or was he just stone cold dead.
An interesting and well written article. This one is simple, a no brainer! What is their pursuit policy? I’m not referring to a recently altered or fabricated policy, but rather the actual policy that was in affect during the pursuit. The policy that was known and understood by all of their 200 officers. Quite surprising that the television media is not all over this one.
An interesting and well written article. This one is simple, a no brainer! What is their pursuit policy? I’m not referring to a recently altered or fabricated policy, but rather the actual policy that was in affect during the pursuit. The policy that was known and understood by all of their 200 officers. Quite surprising that the television media is not all over this one.
Its amazing that a major institution as the Cleveland Clinic would hire and promote someone like Chief Kalavsky to the top rank of police chief. Where are the clinics ethics and standards when they brought this man on board? Kalavsky has no business being a police chief for this department or any other. I’m surprised that the Ohio Chiefs of Police Association would recommend Kalavsky for such an esteemed position. Someone should contact them and tell them how they messed up. It sure will make me think the next time I drive past the Cleveland Clinic. If the Chief has this skelton in his closet, what is hidden in the closets of the rest of his command staff at the Cleveland Clinic Police Department?? Excellent job, Lisa Rab.
Its amazing that a major institution as the Cleveland Clinic would hire and promote someone like Chief Kalavsky to the top rank of police chief. Where are the clinics ethics and standards when they brought this man on board? Kalavsky has no business being a police chief for this department or any other. I’m surprised that the Ohio Chiefs of Police Association would recommend Kalavsky for such an esteemed position. Someone should contact them and tell them how they messed up. It sure will make me think the next time I drive past the Cleveland Clinic. If the Chief has this skelton in his closet, what is hidden in the closets of the rest of his command staff at the Cleveland Clinic Police Department?? Excellent job, Lisa Rab.
Considering the facts surrounding the Chief’s criminal past, genuine leadership does not exist in this department. Leadership never had the opportunity to exist. Kind of makes you wonder why certain people get promoted??? Politics, money, B.S. or a combination of all three. Certainly not any common sense used in this promotional decision. Very unfortunate for the officers who take pride in their jobs. Good luck.
Considering the facts surrounding the Chief’s criminal past, genuine leadership does not exist in this department. Leadership never had the opportunity to exist. Kind of makes you wonder why certain people get promoted??? Politics, money, B.S. or a combination of all three. Certainly not any common sense used in this promotional decision. Very unfortunate for the officers who take pride in their jobs. Good luck.
I will never stop my car for a hospital cop. Especially for one of those greasy fat slobs that wear the white shirts. What a joke!
I will never stop my car for a hospital cop. Especially for one of those greasy fat slobs that wear the white shirts. What a joke!
Mr. Giammaria, how can you say that, your wife a known drug addict sold her or your car for crack cocain. You then falsified a police report with a east suburban police department that your car was stolen. I think they made a pretty good judgement of character by firing your ass.
Mr. Giammaria, how can you say that, your wife a known drug addict sold her or your car for crack cocain. You then falsified a police report with a east suburban police department that your car was stolen. I think they made a pretty good judgement of character by firing your ass.
Let’s start at the top because all shit rolls down hill from there. Kalavsky’s criminal past can be verified. Apparently he will violate the laws which he swore to enforce if his boss tells him to do so. Innocent people do not make plea bargains with prosecutors, nor would they resign from their job as chief of police if they were innocent. Only a Company Whore would believe otherwise. Scene Magazine publishes some very interesting and positive articles. It is unfortunate that in this situation negativity has been created by incompetence and a phony leadership structure. Lisa Rab did her homework and wrote a credible article. Some people are ashamed of the truth.
Let’s start at the top because all shit rolls down hill from there. Kalavsky’s criminal past can be verified. Apparently he will violate the laws which he swore to enforce if his boss tells him to do so. Innocent people do not make plea bargains with prosecutors, nor would they resign from their job as chief of police if they were innocent. Only a Company Whore would believe otherwise. Scene Magazine publishes some very interesting and positive articles. It is unfortunate that in this situation negativity has been created by incompetence and a phony leadership structure. Lisa Rab did her homework and wrote a credible article. Some people are ashamed of the truth.
It is a privilege, not a right for this private institution to possess a police commission from the State of Ohio. This privilege is not to be abused. The practices and policies of this department should be thoroughly investigated by the Ohio Attorney Generals Office.
It is a privilege, not a right for this private institution to possess a police commission from the State of Ohio. This privilege is not to be abused. The practices and policies of this department should be thoroughly investigated by the Ohio Attorney Generals Office.
They are way overpayed lazy cops.
They are way overpayed lazy cops.
Lets get down to the basics of this article. Frank Giammaria is an ex-Cleveland Clinic Cop with a hard-on for the clinic.His wife is a drug addicted slut.They are both friends with Lisa Rab; which says alot about her crediability. Frank used to work as much overtime as possible to support his drug addicted wife. Many a night Frank would come home to find his Slut-of-a-Wife in bed with those who would supply her drugs.He is trying to slander a hard working Police Force that he himself was once part of; but was fired from for filing a false Police Report.If the Clinic Cops are as inadequite as Frank and Lisa tries to lead you to believe, then Frank you must be the Biggest Looser of all. Now as far as Lisa Rab goes. You talk about “struggles to go pro”, maybe you should look into the mirror. You are just a writer for Scene Magazine. You couldn’t even make it with the “Sun Newspaper”. Talk about struggling to go pro.
I think what all of you are missing is this. The Cleveland Clinic Police Department has created a crime free zone from E83rd st. to E105th st. from Chester to Cedar Aves. Yes thats right the Cleveland Clinic Police did this in the darkest pitts of inner city Cleveland, Ohio. It wasn’t the Cleveland Police, nor the Sherrif’s Department, nor the Highway Patrol. It was the Clinic Cops. Not too bad for a bunch of $60,000.00 a year wannabees. These Men and Women in Blue should be praised.I’m sure that when you write that they “track down toilet paper thieves” that they smile as thats just about all the crime thats left on their beat. They have run all the “Gang Bangers” and drug lords out of their little island, and this folks is something that the real Police, haven’t been able to do.!!!!
Lets get down to the basics of this article. Frank Giammaria is an ex-Cleveland Clinic Cop with a hard-on for the clinic.His wife is a drug addicted slut.They are both friends with Lisa Rab; which says alot about her crediability. Frank used to work as much overtime as possible to support his drug addicted wife. Many a night Frank would come home to find his Slut-of-a-Wife in bed with those who would supply her drugs.He is trying to slander a hard working Police Force that he himself was once part of; but was fired from for filing a false Police Report.If the Clinic Cops are as inadequite as Frank and Lisa tries to lead you to believe, then Frank you must be the Biggest Looser of all. Now as far as Lisa Rab goes. You talk about “struggles to go pro”, maybe you should look into the mirror. You are just a writer for Scene Magazine. You couldn’t even make it with the “Sun Newspaper”. Talk about struggling to go pro.
I think what all of you are missing is this. The Cleveland Clinic Police Department has created a crime free zone from E83rd st. to E105th st. from Chester to Cedar Aves. Yes thats right the Cleveland Clinic Police did this in the darkest pitts of inner city Cleveland, Ohio. It wasn’t the Cleveland Police, nor the Sherrif’s Department, nor the Highway Patrol. It was the Clinic Cops. Not too bad for a bunch of $60,000.00 a year wannabees. These Men and Women in Blue should be praised.I’m sure that when you write that they “track down toilet paper thieves” that they smile as thats just about all the crime thats left on their beat. They have run all the “Gang Bangers” and drug lords out of their little island, and this folks is something that the real Police, haven’t been able to do.!!!!
Well…”THE ONLY ONE WHO HASN’T SLEPT WITH FRANK’S WIFE” doesn’t have the ability to comprehend and understand this article as well as the ethics and principals of professional law enforcement. It’s doubtful that you have ever worked for a “real police department.” You’re just another Company Whore. Not to mention that you’re a retard if you believe the area is a “crime free zone.” Why don’t you go and guard a parking lot. You can fantasize there.
Well…”THE ONLY ONE WHO HASN’T SLEPT WITH FRANK’S WIFE” doesn’t have the ability to comprehend and understand this article as well as the ethics and principals of professional law enforcement. It’s doubtful that you have ever worked for a “real police department.” You’re just another Company Whore. Not to mention that you’re a retard if you believe the area is a “crime free zone.” Why don’t you go and guard a parking lot. You can fantasize there.
For those of you who are not Cops, you will not understand this and most likely NEVER will. I work for CPD and I can tell you I AM GLAD that the Cleveland Clinic has there own Police Dept. Most of us are. The assholes that Rab interviewed were turned down for a job at the Clinic and they have a bitter taste in their mouth.I would love a $60,000.00 job. The fact is, ALL Cops are Brothers in Blue. I dont care if its Hospital, Transit, University, County, Park. We all have the same training and do the same job. On many calls the Clinic COPS backed me up and I was greatfull. You all should grow up or if thats not possible, become a cop and talk to me in a year after you’ve worked the streets. Fact is, None of you PUSSYS has the BALLS to put on a badge and protect people that you have never met. Cleveland Clinic Police Department, I commend you and look foward working with you all in the future. The rest of you, POUND SALT.
For those of you who are not Cops, you will not understand this and most likely NEVER will. I work for CPD and I can tell you I AM GLAD that the Cleveland Clinic has there own Police Dept. Most of us are. The assholes that Rab interviewed were turned down for a job at the Clinic and they have a bitter taste in their mouth.I would love a $60,000.00 job. The fact is, ALL Cops are Brothers in Blue. I dont care if its Hospital, Transit, University, County, Park. We all have the same training and do the same job. On many calls the Clinic COPS backed me up and I was greatfull. You all should grow up or if thats not possible, become a cop and talk to me in a year after you’ve worked the streets. Fact is, None of you PUSSYS has the BALLS to put on a badge and protect people that you have never met. Cleveland Clinic Police Department, I commend you and look foward working with you all in the future. The rest of you, POUND SALT.
Well…THE 5th DISTRICT COPPER…(if really a 5th CPD)can’t comprehend the meaning of the article either. This is not an issue as to whether or not officers of different departments are brothers in blue. I hope that they are. The clinic officers are non union. They are not as fortunate as you in regards to protection of their rights and career. Also, you have been misinformed if you believe that they do the same job that you do. Not even close buddy. Calm down, become well informed so that you don’t make an ass of yourself, try working on your spelling, punctuation and grammar Mr. Copper. Understand the issue prior to commenting. Don’t let your emotions lead you astray. And certainly don’t embarrass CPD by writing atrocious narratives.
Well…THE 5th DISTRICT COPPER…(if really a 5th CPD)can’t comprehend the meaning of the article either. This is not an issue as to whether or not officers of different departments are brothers in blue. I hope that they are. The clinic officers are non union. They are not as fortunate as you in regards to protection of their rights and career. Also, you have been misinformed if you believe that they do the same job that you do. Not even close buddy. Calm down, become well informed so that you don’t make an ass of yourself, try working on your spelling, punctuation and grammar Mr. Copper. Understand the issue prior to commenting. Don’t let your emotions lead you astray. And certainly don’t embarrass CPD by writing atrocious narratives.
As a former Cleveland Clinic police officer I can say only this: DO NOT WRITE ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!! The area in which the Clinic sits upon is only safe because the officers there do a damn good job. There isn’t a city police department in the state of Ohio that deals with as many crazy people, suicide attempts, domestic violence, harassment, theft and just plain crap with as much professionalism as the CCPD. It is a very stressful job. Remaining calm in the midst of chaos is a quality that all CCPD officers MUST have; the reputation of the Clinic depends on it. The CCPD is the last defense against the hordes of thieves, drug addicts/sellers from moving in and taking over, don’t ever forget that! So when you come there for an appointment remember that you are safe only because they make it that way for you Ms. Rab. Because my dear everyone ends up there someday, Happy Trails to all my friends at CCPD!
As for the new Chief, who hired this clown anyway, makes ya think!
As a former Cleveland Clinic police officer I can say only this: DO NOT WRITE ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!! The area in which the Clinic sits upon is only safe because the officers there do a damn good job. There isn’t a city police department in the state of Ohio that deals with as many crazy people, suicide attempts, domestic violence, harassment, theft and just plain crap with as much professionalism as the CCPD. It is a very stressful job. Remaining calm in the midst of chaos is a quality that all CCPD officers MUST have; the reputation of the Clinic depends on it. The CCPD is the last defense against the hordes of thieves, drug addicts/sellers from moving in and taking over, don’t ever forget that! So when you come there for an appointment remember that you are safe only because they make it that way for you Ms. Rab. Because my dear everyone ends up there someday, Happy Trails to all my friends at CCPD!
As for the new Chief, who hired this clown anyway, makes ya think!
To answer Vicki Graham’s question regarding the new chief, it apeares that he was hired by the HC, the Head Clown. The circus had a clearance sale and auctioned off all of their Whore Clowns. I knew there had to be a positive side to this train wreck. Good question Miss Graham.
To answer Vicki Graham’s question regarding the new chief, it apeares that he was hired by the HC, the Head Clown. The circus had a clearance sale and auctioned off all of their Whore Clowns. I knew there had to be a positive side to this train wreck. Good question Miss Graham.
Some of you who are giving their comments are forgetting what the article is about. That the Cleveland Clinic Police Department would promote an individual to the position of police chief who obviously portrays a double standard with a past criminal history. (don’t do as do, do as I say). That the re-nown Ohio Association of Chiefs of Police would recommend Chief John Kalavsky for police chief. Secondly, that the Clevland Clinic Police Department controlled a pursuit on December 7, 2006 in which a young man lost his life. That department that some of you praise. Sing your praises to the dead man’s family. That man would be alive today. A police department who obviously has the mentality of the keystone cops. They could never measure up to the Cleveland Police who do a fine job in the streets of Cleveland. Thirdly, when asked for information regarding the clinic police departments budgets and policies, it fell on deaf ears even from the PR chief. For those people that are leaving their comments who don’t even have the guts to use your real names. You know who you are. You could be opening yourselves up to slander. Grow up. Smell the coffee. Read the article again.
Some of you who are giving their comments are forgetting what the article is about. That the Cleveland Clinic Police Department would promote an individual to the position of police chief who obviously portrays a double standard with a past criminal history. (don’t do as do, do as I say). That the re-nown Ohio Association of Chiefs of Police would recommend Chief John Kalavsky for police chief. Secondly, that the Clevland Clinic Police Department controlled a pursuit on December 7, 2006 in which a young man lost his life. That department that some of you praise. Sing your praises to the dead man’s family. That man would be alive today. A police department who obviously has the mentality of the keystone cops. They could never measure up to the Cleveland Police who do a fine job in the streets of Cleveland. Thirdly, when asked for information regarding the clinic police departments budgets and policies, it fell on deaf ears even from the PR chief. For those people that are leaving their comments who don’t even have the guts to use your real names. You know who you are. You could be opening yourselves up to slander. Grow up. Smell the coffee. Read the article again.
As a retired clinic employee, I have some insight on the confusing situations that never seem to cease with this organization. The self proclaimed “World Class” administration of the clinic has permitted a giant turd to manifest from the bowels of the little drab building on Euclid. Only a person with a clean background, and a history of honesty should serve as the chief of a police department. Not a mealy mouth, cheerleading, politician who has a background of criminal activity. Over the years I have seen this occur time and time again, and it is far beyond the control of the hard working officers. It’s sad to say, but nobody really cares. Just let the show go on.
As a retired clinic employee, I have some insight on the confusing situations that never seem to cease with this organization. The self proclaimed “World Class” administration of the clinic has permitted a giant turd to manifest from the bowels of the little drab building on Euclid. Only a person with a clean background, and a history of honesty should serve as the chief of a police department. Not a mealy mouth, cheerleading, politician who has a background of criminal activity. Over the years I have seen this occur time and time again, and it is far beyond the control of the hard working officers. It’s sad to say, but nobody really cares. Just let the show go on.
You all forget, Chief Kalavsky did not “get a second chance”. He lost his job in Warrensville. But, like the man that he is, he was knocked off of one hill and chose another one to climb. With the detirmination he possess, he made it to the top. GOOD FOR HIM! as for Giamaria and the others, Chief Kalavsky did not FIRE you, you fired yourselves. Hopefully you guys can find another hill to climb and find peace with your accomplishments. So good luck to you all. As for the cpd officers, We are all brothers in blue. And I speak for all clinic police, WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE YOUR BACKS. You are the real heros of this city and just dont have enough people to hand your work load. I PRAISE YOU ALL!
Lisa, this was a well written article. except for “the pursuit”. He was a criminal who stole a 76 year olds car. not because he needed it but because he could. he walked by 2 bus stops to get to the car. he then chose to do 100 mph down euclid. this was his own fault not the officer. now this officer has to live with this for the rest of his choice. and you want to talk bad about the officer for doing a job no one else wants. I PRAISE THIS OFFICER! Good luck in life to all involved.
Oh, top out pay is 52K. get your facts straight.
You all forget, Chief Kalavsky did not “get a second chance”. He lost his job in Warrensville. But, like the man that he is, he was knocked off of one hill and chose another one to climb. With the detirmination he possess, he made it to the top. GOOD FOR HIM! as for Giamaria and the others, Chief Kalavsky did not FIRE you, you fired yourselves. Hopefully you guys can find another hill to climb and find peace with your accomplishments. So good luck to you all. As for the cpd officers, We are all brothers in blue. And I speak for all clinic police, WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE YOUR BACKS. You are the real heros of this city and just dont have enough people to hand your work load. I PRAISE YOU ALL!
Lisa, this was a well written article. except for “the pursuit”. He was a criminal who stole a 76 year olds car. not because he needed it but because he could. he walked by 2 bus stops to get to the car. he then chose to do 100 mph down euclid. this was his own fault not the officer. now this officer has to live with this for the rest of his choice. and you want to talk bad about the officer for doing a job no one else wants. I PRAISE THIS OFFICER! Good luck in life to all involved.
Oh, top out pay is 52K. get your facts straight.
Yah..ok BIGGY, Uncle Chief’s nephew?? There’s another story!
Yah..ok BIGGY, Uncle Chief’s nephew?? There’s another story!
Tortured animal, linen left in patients. A police chiefs record. That would make Satan smile. And all people are writing about is an ex employees past. Is this a show of people on low protein diets or is this another ploy of the PR departments carefully crafted diversions.People are easily led astray. Lets wake up to the present situation. The past isn’t involved anymore.
Tortured animal, linen left in patients. A police chiefs record. That would make Satan smile. And all people are writing about is an ex employees past. Is this a show of people on low protein diets or is this another ploy of the PR departments carefully crafted diversions.People are easily led astray. Lets wake up to the present situation. The past isn’t involved anymore.
To Connor the Moron; There isn’t a person in their right mind that would want to be the Chief of CCPD. It has twice the amount of politics of a “normal” police department and it requires an individual who is willing to be a total puppet of the hospital admin. Notice that no one has been promoted from within for over a decade? The department is in dire need of a strong leader and a union to represent the officers. This will never happen as the Clinic prefers to have absolute control over its employee’s. You must play by their rules or leave. I chose to no longer give the Clinic my time/life, as they in return did not give a rats ass about me. Enough said, life goes on without the Clinic.
To Connor the Moron; There isn’t a person in their right mind that would want to be the Chief of CCPD. It has twice the amount of politics of a “normal” police department and it requires an individual who is willing to be a total puppet of the hospital admin. Notice that no one has been promoted from within for over a decade? The department is in dire need of a strong leader and a union to represent the officers. This will never happen as the Clinic prefers to have absolute control over its employee’s. You must play by their rules or leave. I chose to no longer give the Clinic my time/life, as they in return did not give a rats ass about me. Enough said, life goes on without the Clinic.
Vicki Graham, Very well stated. You put the issues in their correct perspectives. Some of the officers may have taken offense to the article. They should not be offended. The fact is that the officers do an excellent job. Many of them believe strongly in what they are doing an that is very admirable. Unfortunately, some of them still don’t see the big picture. If they find themselves in a degrading or compromising position it is because they were put there by the self serving pigs that run the department.
Vicki Graham, Very well stated. You put the issues in their correct perspectives. Some of the officers may have taken offense to the article. They should not be offended. The fact is that the officers do an excellent job. Many of them believe strongly in what they are doing an that is very admirable. Unfortunately, some of them still don’t see the big picture. If they find themselves in a degrading or compromising position it is because they were put there by the self serving pigs that run the department.
DEAR BIGGY,You said that the chief was “knocked off of one hill and chose another one to climb.” That’s Super! However, you’re dodging the issue Biggy. The chief broke the law, he got caught, and then he ratted out his cohorts to avoid being prosecuted. A real man would have arrested the mayor for requesting the illegal use of a police computer and squashed the problem immediately. The chief should not be condemned for the mistakes that he made in the past. He deserves to make a living just like everyone else. However, he has absolutely no business being a police officer. There are applicants that are being turend away from employment at the Clinic P.D. due to minor traffic infractions they have had in the past. But it is ok to commit theft in office, forgery, and misuse of a crime fighting computer???? Talk about double standards! Were you kicked in the head by a mule, or just born a stupid fuck?
DEAR BIGGY,You said that the chief was “knocked off of one hill and chose another one to climb.” That’s Super! However, you’re dodging the issue Biggy. The chief broke the law, he got caught, and then he ratted out his cohorts to avoid being prosecuted. A real man would have arrested the mayor for requesting the illegal use of a police computer and squashed the problem immediately. The chief should not be condemned for the mistakes that he made in the past. He deserves to make a living just like everyone else. However, he has absolutely no business being a police officer. There are applicants that are being turend away from employment at the Clinic P.D. due to minor traffic infractions they have had in the past. But it is ok to commit theft in office, forgery, and misuse of a crime fighting computer???? Talk about double standards! Were you kicked in the head by a mule, or just born a stupid fuck?
Struggle to go pro? I know many officers that work for the CCPD and the fact is most of the officers either are retired from long careers at municipalities, work part time for a municipality, or left a municiple police job to work for the clinic because the pay is great. So they are “real” cops, and have plenty of experience at police work. If anything, Mrs. Rabb is struggling to go pro. She writes for Scene magazine…a publication so professional it’s FREE. Consider the source, a disgrunteled former employee telling his “story” to a reporter that works for a publication that did an article on vampires in Cleveland. Honestly this is laughable.
Furthermore if you wish to feel sorry for car thieves that threaten the public by careening down Euclid in a STOLEN car with a rap sheet as long as the tax code, well I feel sorry for you. You’re just another angry liberal filling the empty void in your life by “championing” another, rolling my eyes, cause. Mr. Peterson,Connor seems to fit this description. Mr. Big John Tyler is also awfully big to post a comment that he would not stop for a hospital cop…fine don’t, most assuredly the ccpd officer will follow you until you do stop and arrest you for fleeing and evading on top of whatever stupidity you managed to get yourself into that day and take you to county…where the officer will be more than happy to listen to you tell him that he’s just a hospital cop as he begins the booking process and he’ll probably even stick around to watch the cell doors shut. I mean these guys make a good hourly wage right? Why not sneak in a little OT for a good story to tell at roll call?
Struggle to go pro? I know many officers that work for the CCPD and the fact is most of the officers either are retired from long careers at municipalities, work part time for a municipality, or left a municiple police job to work for the clinic because the pay is great. So they are “real” cops, and have plenty of experience at police work. If anything, Mrs. Rabb is struggling to go pro. She writes for Scene magazine…a publication so professional it’s FREE. Consider the source, a disgrunteled former employee telling his “story” to a reporter that works for a publication that did an article on vampires in Cleveland. Honestly this is laughable.
Furthermore if you wish to feel sorry for car thieves that threaten the public by careening down Euclid in a STOLEN car with a rap sheet as long as the tax code, well I feel sorry for you. You’re just another angry liberal filling the empty void in your life by “championing” another, rolling my eyes, cause. Mr. Peterson,Connor seems to fit this description. Mr. Big John Tyler is also awfully big to post a comment that he would not stop for a hospital cop…fine don’t, most assuredly the ccpd officer will follow you until you do stop and arrest you for fleeing and evading on top of whatever stupidity you managed to get yourself into that day and take you to county…where the officer will be more than happy to listen to you tell him that he’s just a hospital cop as he begins the booking process and he’ll probably even stick around to watch the cell doors shut. I mean these guys make a good hourly wage right? Why not sneak in a little OT for a good story to tell at roll call?
These police officers are such ridiculous. My husband was diagnosed with cancer and the Clinic was touted as a “Center of Excellence”. Not only did the surgeon botch the job which forced us to be confined there for over a month on our first stay and brought us back numerous times for weeks on end for nothing but more botched work, the Clinic Police did nothing but strut around harassing patient family members,kicking them off the streets and pursuing them down decrepit alleyways because the entire campus is nonsmoking. The entire Clinic is a joke. I realize that smoking is dangerous to your health but from what I experienced at this facility, smoking is the least of your health-related problems. At any given time there were three or four “cruiser” cars parked on Euclid doing nothing but harassing would-be smokers while crime was rampant a block or two away. In the months we were held hostage at this horrible place I never once saw a Clinic “police officer” do anything to assist anyone with a problem or even put forth a kind word to so many I saw suffering in the streets. I dubbed them the smoking Nazi’s because that is all they had any interest in.
These police officers are such ridiculous. My husband was diagnosed with cancer and the Clinic was touted as a “Center of Excellence”. Not only did the surgeon botch the job which forced us to be confined there for over a month on our first stay and brought us back numerous times for weeks on end for nothing but more botched work, the Clinic Police did nothing but strut around harassing patient family members,kicking them off the streets and pursuing them down decrepit alleyways because the entire campus is nonsmoking. The entire Clinic is a joke. I realize that smoking is dangerous to your health but from what I experienced at this facility, smoking is the least of your health-related problems. At any given time there were three or four “cruiser” cars parked on Euclid doing nothing but harassing would-be smokers while crime was rampant a block or two away. In the months we were held hostage at this horrible place I never once saw a Clinic “police officer” do anything to assist anyone with a problem or even put forth a kind word to so many I saw suffering in the streets. I dubbed them the smoking Nazi’s because that is all they had any interest in.
To Picker: There are some excellent officers at ccpd who are former municipal officers. It is obvious that you are not one of them based on the mentality of your comment. The only thing that is “laughable” here is that you don’t have the ability and intelligence to understand the article. That’s probably due to a lack of proper training and experience. You are trying to give the impression that you do not work for ccpd, but you sure know enough about roll call, O.T. and the booking process. Maybe you should brush up on the pursuit policy and have one of the former municipal officers instruct you as to when you should or should not pursue a vehicle that is traveling at a high rate of speed. Here again when can refer to your lack of training and experience.
Dear D.K., We hope that your husband is doing well. The clinic officers are constantly ordered by their superiors to to enforce the smoking ban. It is not the independent choice of the officer. There are no laws which prohibit a person from somking on the street. It is a private policy. When the Vampires in Cleveland show up at the clinic I can assure you that officers (like the Picker) will be directed to pass out strands of garlic in addition to chasing smokers. Your frustrations are clearly understood. However, many clinic officers are pro-active while on duty and they do thier best to provide a safe environment. They do what they are “permitted to do” in the arena of law enforcement.
To Picker: There are some excellent officers at ccpd who are former municipal officers. It is obvious that you are not one of them based on the mentality of your comment. The only thing that is “laughable” here is that you don’t have the ability and intelligence to understand the article. That’s probably due to a lack of proper training and experience. You are trying to give the impression that you do not work for ccpd, but you sure know enough about roll call, O.T. and the booking process. Maybe you should brush up on the pursuit policy and have one of the former municipal officers instruct you as to when you should or should not pursue a vehicle that is traveling at a high rate of speed. Here again when can refer to your lack of training and experience.
Dear D.K., We hope that your husband is doing well. The clinic officers are constantly ordered by their superiors to to enforce the smoking ban. It is not the independent choice of the officer. There are no laws which prohibit a person from somking on the street. It is a private policy. When the Vampires in Cleveland show up at the clinic I can assure you that officers (like the Picker) will be directed to pass out strands of garlic in addition to chasing smokers. Your frustrations are clearly understood. However, many clinic officers are pro-active while on duty and they do thier best to provide a safe environment. They do what they are “permitted to do” in the arena of law enforcement.
To the picker: How interesting. You don’t approve of the magazine, the articles, or the writer. But yet, you continue to read and take time to comment. Sir, you just lost your credibility.
To the picker: How interesting. You don’t approve of the magazine, the articles, or the writer. But yet, you continue to read and take time to comment. Sir, you just lost your credibility.
attn: Chuck Speigel..
you actually feel sorry for the kid who stole the car and died ? are you serious? i see it as one less asshole punk that can steal another car… how would you feel if it was YOUR CAR that got stolen? i’m sure you wouldn’t feel sorry about him.
attn: Chuck Speigel..
you actually feel sorry for the kid who stole the car and died ? are you serious? i see it as one less asshole punk that can steal another car… how would you feel if it was YOUR CAR that got stolen? i’m sure you wouldn’t feel sorry about him.
Connor the moron, actually I have been a municiple police officer so your assumption is wrong again, and shows your ignorance on this whole topic. Rachel settle down sweety! I know liberals get testy when ever one of their favorite institutions ia attacked, but the loudness of your voice does not make you correct…I usually don’t read Scene, because it is a FREE magazine, with little to no credibility. Yes I know about Roll call, OT, and the booking process because, heres a shocker, I’m a cop and those are common police words, and duties, and I in no way lost my credibility Rachel. If I hear about a negative article bashing a police department I’m going to read it, and then if it is obviously a sham, like this one, I’m pretty sure you Libs haven’t taken away my right to comment on it just yet. If anyone lost their credibility it is you dear. You are obviously a SHILL for the Scene magazine. Listen, say what you want I’m not going to get mad. Go ahead try to defame my character, call names, scream real loud, and get blue in the face…what that doesn’t change is the fact that Lisa Rab is the friend of a former disgruntled ccpd officer who was fired because he falsified a police report regaurding his wifes car being stolen. The problem is the car wasn’t stolen it was sold by his wife because of her addiction. That is a FACT. So it seems to me that Lisa Rab is too close to the situation to be impartial and fair…so it looks like her credibility has been lost. Another thing that is funny is I think the officer who was fired has daughter named Rachel…hmmmm.
Connor the moron, actually I have been a municiple police officer so your assumption is wrong again, and shows your ignorance on this whole topic. Rachel settle down sweety! I know liberals get testy when ever one of their favorite institutions ia attacked, but the loudness of your voice does not make you correct…I usually don’t read Scene, because it is a FREE magazine, with little to no credibility. Yes I know about Roll call, OT, and the booking process because, heres a shocker, I’m a cop and those are common police words, and duties, and I in no way lost my credibility Rachel. If I hear about a negative article bashing a police department I’m going to read it, and then if it is obviously a sham, like this one, I’m pretty sure you Libs haven’t taken away my right to comment on it just yet. If anyone lost their credibility it is you dear. You are obviously a SHILL for the Scene magazine. Listen, say what you want I’m not going to get mad. Go ahead try to defame my character, call names, scream real loud, and get blue in the face…what that doesn’t change is the fact that Lisa Rab is the friend of a former disgruntled ccpd officer who was fired because he falsified a police report regaurding his wifes car being stolen. The problem is the car wasn’t stolen it was sold by his wife because of her addiction. That is a FACT. So it seems to me that Lisa Rab is too close to the situation to be impartial and fair…so it looks like her credibility has been lost. Another thing that is funny is I think the officer who was fired has daughter named Rachel…hmmmm.
Lisa Rab, not a bad story, but the news of the Chief is old news. Didn’t that incident happen ten years ago? Now that is good investigation. As for Frank, was he not a slum lord before the clinic pd gave him a second chance? Not only did the clinic pd give him a second chance, if you investigated Frank a little bit, you would realize that Frank got many chances before losing his job. As for “Big John”, you are an idiot.
Lisa Rab, not a bad story, but the news of the Chief is old news. Didn’t that incident happen ten years ago? Now that is good investigation. As for Frank, was he not a slum lord before the clinic pd gave him a second chance? Not only did the clinic pd give him a second chance, if you investigated Frank a little bit, you would realize that Frank got many chances before losing his job. As for “Big John”, you are an idiot.
Miss Picker: I’ve been silently following this article because it mentions officers of my former department. It’s not a surprise that you’re a cop, it’s an embarrassment. You couldn’t be anything more than a copper from a Podunk town where out of boredom they chase folks down for no rear illumination. You probably have a blue light in your personal vehicle and prefer to be addressed by an official title at off duty-social functions. Get over your insecurities. It has been explained to your simple ass that the article is not a personal attack on police in the field. No go and beat yourself off, or do something that you’re good at.
Miss Picker: I’ve been silently following this article because it mentions officers of my former department. It’s not a surprise that you’re a cop, it’s an embarrassment. You couldn’t be anything more than a copper from a Podunk town where out of boredom they chase folks down for no rear illumination. You probably have a blue light in your personal vehicle and prefer to be addressed by an official title at off duty-social functions. Get over your insecurities. It has been explained to your simple ass that the article is not a personal attack on police in the field. No go and beat yourself off, or do something that you’re good at.
Thank you Code 90 for responding to the ass picker from the peanut gallery.
Thank you Code 90 for responding to the ass picker from the peanut gallery.
The chief, and the command staff are a joke. If you ask anyone who was employed by the CCF Police, we would not have anything positive to say. The police department is poorly run. I was not surprised to read that the chief is a criminal, because the clinic has the money to do what ever they want. When you have money, you have power. And the Cleveland Clinic is power.
The chief, and the command staff are a joke. If you ask anyone who was employed by the CCF Police, we would not have anything positive to say. The police department is poorly run. I was not surprised to read that the chief is a criminal, because the clinic has the money to do what ever they want. When you have money, you have power. And the Cleveland Clinic is power.
We should set aside our differences and form a PROCESS ACTION TEAM to resolve the issues. Or, we could do something more effective by standing up for ourselves, and form a Union like millions of other Americans. We could put an end to having smoke blown up our asses and actually have some rights! Nah, the Union thing would make too much sense.
We should set aside our differences and form a PROCESS ACTION TEAM to resolve the issues. Or, we could do something more effective by standing up for ourselves, and form a Union like millions of other Americans. We could put an end to having smoke blown up our asses and actually have some rights! Nah, the Union thing would make too much sense.
As a Clinic employee I agree that the area is safer with the CCPD than without. However, ask the employees whose cars have been broken into or stolen from Clinic lots, do they feel safer? Ask the employees who are seeing expensive equipment stolen from their departments and nobody seems to care, is this good policing? The background of the chief may be old news but proves the case that it’s who you know, and Kalavsky must know someone. Like any large organization, the Clinic has its share of corruption, conflicts of interest, etc.
As a Clinic employee I agree that the area is safer with the CCPD than without. However, ask the employees whose cars have been broken into or stolen from Clinic lots, do they feel safer? Ask the employees who are seeing expensive equipment stolen from their departments and nobody seems to care, is this good policing? The background of the chief may be old news but proves the case that it’s who you know, and Kalavsky must know someone. Like any large organization, the Clinic has its share of corruption, conflicts of interest, etc.
To themama, Isn’t Standard Parking in charge of all of the parking lots on Clinic property? Car theft and vandalism increased when this department was out sourced. In house employee theft is rampant in a institution that does not hold itself accountable. I once did a theft report for a $10,000.00 computer program and no one blinked an eye; I was shocked! It looks like the bitch and whine session has continued. How about some positive ideas and solutions?
To themama, Isn’t Standard Parking in charge of all of the parking lots on Clinic property? Car theft and vandalism increased when this department was out sourced. In house employee theft is rampant in a institution that does not hold itself accountable. I once did a theft report for a $10,000.00 computer program and no one blinked an eye; I was shocked! It looks like the bitch and whine session has continued. How about some positive ideas and solutions?
Themama, the reason for cars being broken into is because the clinic pd will not patrol the areas where employees park outside there parking lots. The clinic employees cars are being targeted by the parties that are commiting the crimes, but clinic pd feel that cleveland pd should handle. If clinic pd takes report and investigates, the crime rate just went up at the clicic. If you give all criminal reports to cleveland pd, there is no crime at the clinic. Politics 101.
Themama, the reason for cars being broken into is because the clinic pd will not patrol the areas where employees park outside there parking lots. The clinic employees cars are being targeted by the parties that are commiting the crimes, but clinic pd feel that cleveland pd should handle. If clinic pd takes report and investigates, the crime rate just went up at the clicic. If you give all criminal reports to cleveland pd, there is no crime at the clinic. Politics 101.
I am quite impressed with this article. I can’t believe the cleveland clinic with the outstanding reputation they have would hire someone to lead a department with the kind of background the chief had prior to being chief at cleveland clinic. I must admit I am very dissapointed. As for seeing the police force at the clinic I had heard they were real police protecting the property of the cleveland clinic. When my wife was sick and at the hospital the last month I was there many hours a day and even though they were “real” police they hardly acted like it. I seen many of the officers during the day always parked talking to eachother or inside a building talking to eachother. I didnt feel safe because they were there, it seemed like none of the hospital staff or the other visitors respected them being officers at all! Also there was one officer there, who I seen on many occasions picking his pimples on his face and then eating them, for all to see. VERY DISGUSTING. I think before the hospital staff, visitors and other police take these cops seriously they first need to take their job seriously, starting from the top of the ranks down.
As Vicki Graham’s sister I can attest that CCF treated her like crap, as it does most of it’s employees who are not doctors. It’s a dangerous job that requires a high level of professionalism. Too bad they no longer have someone of her caliber on their force.
“Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one’s definition of your life; define yourself.”
– Harvey Fierstein
“Scene Magazine can Eat My Shorts.”
– Chief Kalavsky at Roll Call
Hey Kaloofsky, Can you face your officers and explain why it was ok for your fat ass to violate the law? You can’t do that can you? Go fuck yourself you two-faced cocksucker.
“Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one’s definition of your life; define yourself.”
– Harvey Fierstein
“Scene Magazine can Eat My Shorts.”
– Chief Kalavsky at Roll Call
Hey Kaloofsky, Can you face your officers and explain why it was ok for your fat ass to violate the law? You can’t do that can you? Go fuck yourself you two-faced cocksucker.
Eat his sohrts? An elephant doesn’t have a large enough mouth to eat the fat bastard’s shorts.
Its always funny to me that the public complains when the police fail to enforce the law to the publics standards but then complain when the police try to enforce the law more proactively. There is no way to please some people whose ignorance goes beyond anything rational. How is it a police officers fault when he goes to do his job, which is to enforce the laws and protect citizens, and somebody who chose to break the law dies as a result. Why is it the cops fault that the individual he was chasing, wrecked his car and died. That individual could, at any time, to change the end result. He could have decided not to steal the car in the first place, he could have decided that, since the police caught him and were trying to stop him, maybe he should pull over and take his punishment from the court system. All the officer did was see a felony happening in front of him and attempt to do the right thing, which was to stop the car thief and get the vehicle back to its rightful owner. The officer cant be blamed for going to work and doing the job that he is sworn to do anymore then a bridge builder can be blamed for people who decide to jump off of it. And everybody knows that if the clinic officer decided to let the car get away, people whould have blamed him for not attempting to intevene, say he derelicted his duty as a peace officer. I would love for any of these people commenting here to have to be a cop for even one week, then they would understand that it is 100 percent impossible to please people. As cops, we all walk a fine line, Trying to perform the duties that we are sworn to, protecting society from the bad people, while the law abiding people are criticizing our every move. It amazes me that people will sit here and throw stones at these officers when these people would never have the guts to put a badge on and put their safety on the line, in the interest of protecting a society who they dont even know, while at the same time, these people they are trying to protect are blaming them for things that they do or dont do, or shouldve done, or didnt do enough of. It doesnt matter whether your protecting a city, village, township, hospital, transit, county, amusement park, school, or anything else, its all the same game. And contrary to popular belief, it is the same job. As police, our job is all the same, with the same interest, keep the honest law abiding citizens safe and take the criminals off the streets. Any real police officer, deputy, or trooper, will agree with what I have written in this comment.
Here piggy piggy piggy! Keep that parking lot clean eh!
Dear Brother In Blue,
What’s your point? How does it relate to this article?
As a police officer you have to think for the offender when they can not think for themselves. The stupidity and recklessness of a suspect will create a substantial risk for you, the public and other officers.
You wrote that the suspect “could have decided not to steal the car in the first place”, and “maybe he should pull over and take his punishment from the court system.” You said that he could have done this, or that he could have done that. Well, in reality, the suspect didn’t do any of the right things did he? Since the suspect couldn’t make the correct decisions, who do you think has to make these decisions?
The officer that chased the car which resulted in the death of the suspect was in violation of a policy written by the Cleveland Clinic Police Department. The officer was not reprimanded, disciplined or sent to vehicle pursuit training. In fact, the Cleveland Clinic Police Department doesn’t provide any formal training, field training, or instruction for vehicle pursuits. The circumstances surrounding the auto theft, the conditions for the pursuit, the absolute absence of instruction from police supervision during the pursuit, and the vehicle pursuit policy speak for themselves. If an innocent motorist or pedestrian would have been injured or killed during the pursuit, the pursuing officer knows damn well that the disposition would not have been in his favor.
You claim that, “It’s all the same game, and contrary to popular belief, it is the same job.” Are you sure about that Mr. Real Police Officer? If you work for the Clinic Police, and it certainly sounds like you do, you’re a Security Guard. If the clinic administration wanted the heroin and crack dealers off of the surrounding streets, traffic enforcement, a S.W.A.T. Team, or simple shit like issuing a summons instead of a custodial arrest for petty misdemeanor violations, you can bet your ass that it would have been accomplished a long time ago.
So the next time, probably tomorrow, when you’re assigned to parking lot for 8 hours to play with your Johnson, or you’re dreaming of assault rifles and traffic stops, or unlocking a door like a dumb fuck, maybe it will occur to you that you’re a fucking security guard without the responsibility, benefits and privileges of a law enforcement officer. And then again, maybe you won’t understand. Whatever your next assignment may be, you’ll have plenty of time to read the article “Hospital 911” again, and again, and again until you UNDERSTAND ITS MEANING. Read between the lines dipshit!
The following vehicle pursuit policy was current during the deadly vehicle pursuit, probably rewritten and locked away by now…..right? Good or bad it was their policy at the time of the pursuit. Could they have written number 1 and 2 more clearly for your simple ass?
ADMINISTRATION OF THE CCF/PD RECOGNIZES THE SIGNIFICANT, INHERENT DANGER ASSOCIATED WITH PURSUIT DRIVING. NO PURSUIT IS OF SUCH IMPORTANCE, THAT THE PRINCIPAL OF PUBLIC SAFETY OR THAT OF THE OFFICER(s) SHALL BECOME SECONDARY. HOWEVER, WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE FOLLOWING POLICY, OFFICERS MAY INSTITUTE A VEHICLE PURSUIT, IF:
1. THE PURSUIT IS INITIATED ONLY AFTER THE LIFE OF AN INDIVIDUAL HAS BEEN THREATENED, CONTINUES TO BE THREATENED, OR HAS BEEN TAKEN
AND
2. IT IS THE OFFICER’S CONCLUSION THAT THE IMMEDIATE DANGER TO THE PUBLIC, CREATED BY THE PURSUIT, IS LESS THAN, THE IMMEDIATE DANGER TO THE PUBLIC SHOULD THE SUSPECT REMAIN AT LARGE.