It’s an interview between Jackson and Higgs, conducted Wednesday, Sept. 11 in the Mayor’s office. The interview was video recorded, edited — Higgs is nowhere to be found in the director’s cut; he is neither named nor heard — and posted to the City of Cleveland’s YouTube page Thursday morning.
Throughout, Jackson issues blanket denials about his involvement in the investigation and subsequent failure to charge his grandson, Frank Q. Jackson, in the June beating of an 18-year-old woman.
Prior to the interview portion of the video, Jackson stands before the camera and says that the purpose of his conversation with Higgs — it’s taken for granted that he gets to dictate terms — is to communicate “an important message.”
That message is merely a sweeping denial, printed on the screen for emphasis. Neither he nor “anyone associated with [him],” Jackson insists, interfered with the investigation and charging of his grandson, “or any member of [his] family.”
“You can choose to believe the media, or you can believe me,” Jackson says, unconsciously echoing the ‘Fake News’ rhetoric of the Trump era. He doesn’t bother getting more specific, which is standard both for Jackson and for other world dictators. He has said recently that the serious crimes of his family members, the gang presence on his property, and even the police activity inside his home, are none of the media’s (and by extension, none of the public’s) business. Furthermore, he has been hostile in the past to coverage that disagrees with his own positions and is known for “not going into details about anything in particular.”
But here, he constructs an entirely false dichotomy: that there are two competing versions of events. One is “the media’s,” in which questions have been asked about the breakdown in police and prosecutor protocol that resulted in Frank Q. Jackson’s not being charged, (and in which the Mayor may have directly or indirectly influenced the outcome). The other version is the Mayor’s, in which he and everyone associated with him is blameless.
Individual journalists, including cleveland.com’s Adam Ferrise, who has been consistently breaking explosive developments on the story, have been doing exactly what they’re supposed to be doing: assembling facts as they try to put together a coherent picture of what happened. That picture includes what happened when police arrived at Frank Jackson’s home while investigating another case, a west side homicide where a truck registered to Frank Q. Jackson fled the scene. Whether or not Jackson believes he “interfered,” the investigation was rife with what Ferrise’s police sources called “anomalies.”
But Higgs doesn’t press Jackson on any of the reported anomalies in his interview. Or, at any rate, he doesn’t do so in the edited version posted to YouTube. Instead, he gets to listen to Jackson erect and gnaw at straw men to avoid discussing the facts.
Take, for example, when Higgs asks the Mayor (“Q6,” ~5:25) if he anticipated “this level of scrutiny” because of his family’s involvement in the crimes. Here’s a full transcription of Jackson’s nonsensical response:
“When it comes to these kinds of things that then involve family, and the expectation is that I would do as politicians sometimes do — attempt to use their family as a way to address their political concerns of that moment — I’m not gonna do that. So people can take the hit, they can throw the punches, whatever they want. I don’t take those hits, because I’m not going to use my family in that way. So people can say what they want. I have no concern about that. If what the expectation is of me is to, in some kind of way, use my family as a shield or to use some platform — some media platform — to explain myself to them that would involve my family. I’m not gonna do that. So they just have to do what they gonna do. And if that’s part of the job, it’s part of the job.”
That’s the Mayor of Cleveland, ladies and gentlemen.
The question is a needless softball in the first place — intense scrutiny in this case is not only predictable but justified — but Jackson doesn’t even try to answer it. He’s mapping whole new frontiers of irrationality and inelegance.
What he wants to say may be a variation on what he’s said before: that his family business is no one else’s. The above can probably be interpreted as a “no comment” on the affair generally. But look at how he frames it. He is refusing to play politics, he says. He is defying convention by refusing to “use his family as a shield,” (?) or to “use his family to address his political concerns of the moment (??)
This is utter nonsense. Does any member of the public have even the foggiest ideas of what Frank Jackson’s political concerns are in this moment? Jackson wants to make it seem like he’s standing on a set of principles, presumably about the sanctity of a man’s home and a respect for privacy. But he’s avoiding the obvious, as Brent Larkin articulated in a PD column Thursday morning.
“What Jackson and his dwindling band of apologists don’t get,” he wrote, “is a mayor can’t claim his personal life is off limits when an ongoing murder investigation leads straight to his house. A mayor can’t claim it’s off limits when police are asked to protect law-abiding citizens in his neighborhood from the allegedly violent behavior of his own grandson, already the proud owner of a criminal record. And a mayor cannot claim it’s off limits when that same grandson, Frank Q. Jackson, is accused of brutally beating an 18-year-old, repeatedly punching her in the face, smashing her knee with a metal tire hitch, then fleeing the scene when police arrived.”
Jackson is nevertheless stubbornly refusing to provide comment, in the same way that he refused to apologize or even second-guess the hiring of Lance Mason, (who, as I write this, is being sentenced to life in prison for the murder of his wife, Aisha Fraser). He positively refuses to issue even a generic condemnation of violence against women. It’s one of the cruelest, most gutless and most dumbfounding hills that Jackson has died on.
Among his other heroic self-edicts is that he will not use “some media platform” to explain himself. Never mind that he’s talking to a member of the media as he makes this proclamation. Once again, Jackson stands firm in his belief that the Cleveland press should serve him, that they should provide him with platforms when and how he desires.
Higgs’ involvement in the video is such a jaw-dropper for local journalists in part because it enables and reinforces that abusive stance, a stance that has permeated through Jackson’s entire administration. Though Higgs was likely unaware of how he was being exploited, his participation creates the perception that Jackson’s propaganda is a co-production of City Hall and cleveland.com. While that’s often more or less the reality, in this case it’s a slap in the face to dogged local reporters like Adam Ferrise, who have been gathering much of the story’s most important intel.
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This article appears in Sep 11-17, 2019.



It is time for Taxin Jackson to do the right thing and resign from office now!!!
And while he gets shown the door, thief Budish should be ousted as well!!!
Until these crooks are finally removed from office, nothing will likely ever change around here except more corruption, and higher and higher taxes to pay for all of their never ending shenanigans!!!
What’s not mentioned is that Quinn, the HMFIC (and Higgs boss) @ Cle.con has been Taxin Jaxson #1 supporter and if the truth was known, has most likely buried all kinds on stories about this now notorious criminal family.
ALL of them need to go ……
Haha You mean a suit? What a pathetic spin. You guys get sadder every day.
Why does the mayor sound like Foghorn Leghorn?
Frank Jackson is so drunk with power….his incoherence becomes more pronounced by the day — and it’s apparently the reason why his handlers keep him away from having any contact with the public, unless it’s an orchestrated and highly controlled show.
This reminds me of the latter days of the Mike White kleptocracy…The oligarchs have assured Hizzoner that he’s above popular accountability as long as he plays ball with them…So he feels no need to explain himself to the public…and, of course, he’s made the mistake many of our more insular “leaders” in the public and private sectors make: because the only read the PD, since it’s the paper they can manipulate, they believe it’s the only news source in town…Chris Quinn and his ilk should be ashamed for such egregious ass-kissing…but they abandoned shame lonnng ago…
He looks good in a suit. I guess the scene wouldnt hire him but then again, hes not a communist.
I bet Sam looks distinguished in his millennial garb.
Cleveland gets more absurd by the day. The fact that Mayor Jackson has control, power, influence on the lives of so many Clevelanders and doesn’t think he owes them any explanation is complete nonsense and I hope the voters don’t take this lying down. Time to organize and make him resign. Good write up, Sam!
How about the disgusting hypocrisy of the prosecutors who refused to press charges in a violent crime because the perpetrator is related to the mayor. Yet every day they zealously over charge and over prosecute poor people accused of the same crimes, all while maintaining a smug, self superior attitude, assured of the supremacy of their own morals while they sit back and let crap like this happen in the name of political expediency.
If you have money and political power, you truly can become untouchable here in Cleveland, thanks to the gutless worms who comprise our “justice” system.
Frank and his whole rat Pack need to get yanked off the stage. He’s becoming a cartoon mayor…and the cartoon is one I remember from Saturday morning TV…a classic Warner Bros. one from the Forties, in which Daffy Duck imitates Mussolini. And then there’s the famous one from 1943, entitled “Der Fuhrer’s Face”…with raspberry lip-fart noises and Donald Duck heiling and mocking Hitler. Both of them remind me of Jackson.
Frank is becoming a sick joke…but as more shenanigans and chicanery are exposed, fewer and fewer Clevelanders will be laughing. Hopefully, enough of them will stop laughing long enough to throw the bum out in two more years. But he needs to have his ass booted out the door long before that. Bye, Frank!
One of these instances by themselves would be enough to draw extreme concern from voters, but now we’re on how many? Yet instead of just being open about everything and letting everyone check out what happened, instead it’s politics and people out to get him and the awful media ruining his day?
A better, more realistic defense for Mayor Jackson would have been to claim that China recognizes him as a real American hero and a threat to their country, so they bought off everyone and hired actors and look alikes to fake all of this and frame him and they’ve been using a body double for his grandson and they’re putting chemicals in our water to make us all crazy and not be able to realize the truth. This explanation is only slightly less plausible than what has actually been presented.
Nobody thought to level the tripod? Nobody?!?? Echoes of a sinking ship of an administration