Wednesday, December 22, 2010

Absolutely Epic 1974 Letter From Cleveland Browns to a Fan

Posted by Vince Grzegorek on Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 12:06 PM

In November of 1974, a Browns fan and season ticket holder sent a letter to the team regarding a concern of his.

The Cleveland Browns (specifically, their general counsel) sent back an absolutely epic response.

Here are their two letters (click on images to enlarge):

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If that's not clear, here's the transcribed text:


Gentlemen:

I am one of your season ticket holders who attends or tries to attend every game. It appears one of the pastimes of several fans has become the sailing of paper airplanes generally made out of the game program. As you know, there is the risk of serious eye injury and perhaps an ear injury as a result of such airplanes. I am sure that this has been called to your attention and that several of your ushers and policemen witnessed the same.

Please be advised that since you are in a position to control or terminate such action on the part of fans, I will hold you responsible for any injury sustained by any person in my party attending one of your sporting events. It is hoped that this disrespectful and possibly dangerous activity will be terminated.

Very truly yours,

Roetzel & Andress

By Dale O. Cox

And here's the Browns response:

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Hilarious, ah the days of "snail" mail!

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Posted by Francie57 on December 22, 2010 at 1:16 PM

Paper airplanes? Dangerous projectiles!!

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Posted by Ray Sabetto Sr on December 22, 2010 at 1:19 PM

You know the only thing that would make this better? If a hoard of absolutely unfunny simpletons strained their hardest to make jokes that start with the word "Similarly." That'd be hilarious!

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Posted by IceCreamJonsey on December 22, 2010 at 1:27 PM

I smell a rat. Look at the date on the reply from the Browns. It's so much lighter than the rest of the letter. Methinks something has been doctored here!

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Posted by MikeVick on December 22, 2010 at 1:56 PM

"Absolutely Epic"? In the immortal words of Inigo Montoya: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

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Posted by NoToEpic on December 22, 2010 at 2:09 PM

We should get Dan Rather to examine it to determine if it's authentic! ;-)

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Posted by MF on December 22, 2010 at 2:32 PM

There's a lawyer named Dale O. Cox who went to Hiram and Michigan and who now lives in Idaho. Google him to get a phone number and find out if this is real!

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Posted by GodHatesClevelandSports on December 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM

Sadly, corporate lawyers are too much of a wuss to ever send a letter like that today. Worse, after having received such a letter, a trial lawyer today would have drummed up some warm body to claim they were indeed injured and sued the team for hundreds of millions of dollars.

Rich

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Posted by foolishcop on December 22, 2010 at 2:59 PM

Probably a hoax. It would have been very difficult for the Browns to actually receive the letter (11/19) on the same day as it was authored

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Posted by jbrew on December 22, 2010 at 3:00 PM

Probably a hoax. It would have been very difficult for the Browns the receive the letter (11/19) on the same day as it was authored

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Posted by jbrew on December 22, 2010 at 3:02 PM

Re: jbrew "Probably a hoax. It would have been very difficult for the Browns the receive the letter (11/19) on the same day as it was authored"

Try reading again... Authored on 11/18, received 11/19

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Posted by Mathew on December 22, 2010 at 5:14 PM

It's not a hoax. I contacted the lawyer who wrote the first letter.

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Posted by GodHatesClevelandSports on December 22, 2010 at 6:43 PM

This is great! Who cares who it's from, when it was sent or why! There is no whining in football no matter what!

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Posted by mutzy on December 23, 2010 at 6:20 AM

Who cares if it is a hoax. It is still funny!

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Posted by Yellowhorse on December 24, 2010 at 9:00 AM

I called Mr. Cox in Idaho. He confirms it is real. He goes skiing with a Browns helmet and jacket. He remains a loyal Browns fan.

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Posted by bomble on December 24, 2010 at 2:58 PM

Well, what did Mr. Cox say about the team's response? What with it not being a hoax and all that. (Still not sold on the authenticity...)

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Posted by dessertschick on December 26, 2010 at 3:07 AM

It's fake, but accurate.

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Posted by Anonymoose on December 28, 2010 at 12:23 PM

This all-too-cute riposte has been floating around for decades, ascribed to many different situations.

Until someone provides documented confirmation, it should be viewed as a complete hoax.

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Posted by Basil on December 28, 2010 at 4:39 PM

Mr. Cox is lucky he wasn't writing to the Patriots. They probably would have just taken his season tickets away for suggesting he might sue them.

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Posted by MrFuneeGuy on December 29, 2010 at 11:35 PM

A Art is right, look at the letter head, it has been photo shopped in. What is with people these days, don't they have anything better to do than to create hoax's

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Posted by Krazy-Italian on December 31, 2010 at 1:07 PM

When I am physically facing "Jobsworths" I evoke a phrase I have been using 40 years "Mr/Mrs X Rules are for the guidance of the wise & the obediance of fools. In which of those categories do you place yourself??!! I certainly results in a nonoseconds silent thought prior to a reply.

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Posted by IaintheexBrewer on January 6, 2011 at 8:55 PM

I happen to personally know the gentleman who was Browns attorney at the time, and this is absolutely real.

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Posted by johngalt on January 18, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Who cares if it is a hoax. It is still funny!

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Posted by Sylvia on March 2, 2011 at 8:16 AM

It's not a hoax.

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Posted by Sylvia on March 2, 2011 at 8:21 AM

It would have been very difficult for the Browns the receive the letter (11/19) on the same day

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Posted by Sylvia on March 2, 2011 at 8:25 AM

"This is great! Who cares who it's from, when it was sent or why! There is no whining in football no matter what!"

C'Mon this is Cleveland Browns football... There is no WINNING no matter what!!!

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Posted by slateken on March 11, 2011 at 11:39 AM

"This is great! Who cares who it's from, when it was sent or why! There is no whining in football no matter what!"

C'mon, this is Cleveland Browns football... There is no WINNING no matter what!!!

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Posted by slateken on March 11, 2011 at 11:41 AM
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