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This week’s podcast: Host Craig Lyndall talks with reporter Sam Allard and ESPN writer Brian Windhorst about this week’s cover story, a profile of Mike Brown, back at the helm of the Cavs for the second time.

Among the topics covered is this tidbit from the story: “If you want your team to go from a 3 to an 8, Mike Brown’s your guy,” says Windhorst, referencing an imaginary 10-point scale. “But from an 8 to a 10? The answer is no. We won’t know what he’s learned until the playoffs.”

Read the story here, listen to the podcast goodness below.

Vince Grzegorek has been with Scene since 2007 and editor-in-chief since 2012. He previously worked at Discount Drug Mart and Texas Roadhouse.