In today’s episode, Scene’s creative director James Krouse talks with Johnny Hall from FlakeFx, who, with his team, has launched a Kicstarter campaign around Holiduino Flake, which is basically a fully programmable holiday decoration that’s fun for the most tech savvy among us who just want to see something that lights up and makes noise.

They also chatted about how the holidays and technology relate, the maker movement, ugly sweaters, and Scene’s upcoming Holiday Hackathon.

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Vince Grzegorek has been with Scene since 2007 and editor-in-chief since 2012. He previously worked at Discount Drug Mart and Texas Roadhouse.