The City of Cleveland fired the Mysterious Mr. Tien yesterday, saying that his Princeton Enviromental Group failed to accurately reveal how much money the city could make from a trash gasification plant, and how much trash his proposed gasifier could process.
The city also says that the reports Tien completed as part of his $1.5 million contract were inadequate, full of erroneous calculations, and “riddled with grammatical errors.”
The move came hours after the U.S. EPA said the permit application for the plant needed substantial work in order not to violate Clean Air Act rules.
Meanwhile, the city and Cleveland Public Power submitted a host of changes to the Ohio EPA, hoping to bring the proposed plant within federal Clean Air Act regulations. Among them: Making the plant smaller with six gasifiers instead of eight and three furnaces instead of four, installing additional pollution control technology, and building 200-foot smokestacks instead of 175-foot stacks (this spreads pollutants out over a wider area so they aren’t so concentrated in that particular neighborhood).
Although Cleveland hopes the Ohio EPA will let them simply revise the current application, EPA spokesman Mike Settles says the agency has not yet determined whether a modification will suffice, or whether a whole new application will be needed. “We don’t know if these things they are proposing will keep them under the maximum allowable levels,” he says. “We’ve had discussions with the U.S. EPA and [Cleveland Public Power] and will be having more.
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The feds just threw a kink into Cleveland Public Power’s plan to build a trash gasification plant on Ridge Road. The US EPA issued a letter this afternoon stating if the Ohio EPA issues a permit for the plant based on the pollution numbers provided by Peter Tien’s Princeton Environmental Group, it would consider the permit “in violation of federal requirements.”
Cleveland Public Power and Pinceton Environmental claimed on the permit application that the plant would be a “minor” source of pollution and provided emission numbers they thought would qualify it as such. However, the US EPA says that’s not so. The trash gassing plant instead, would be a major pollution source according to how it reads the numbers. The feds are insisting that the permit application be redone.
This development not only delays the garbage plant, but represents a significant financial setback for Peter Tien. The city had agreed to pay him $1.5 million for working up the numbers and getting the Ohio EPA permit approved.Tien represents a Japanese gasification manufacturer and hoped Cleveland would choose its equipment to become the first trash-gassing municipality in the country.
We’re guessing Tien is holding off on plans for a beachfront villa.
Scene wrote about the rather slippery Peter Tien here.
This article appears in Feb 22-28, 2012.
Understanding how the ‘numbers’ are calculated and ‘read’ needs to be explained. If the numbers were accurate on the application, how do you ‘re-tool’. We are talking about science here folks. You can’t just get some accountant to cook the books for you. What real scientists are involved with this whole thing? Or is the entire think tank in Japan? We are a big city with real scientists…use them! This is not something which you can vote on like we try to do so many things in this country..as though a bunch of idiots voting on something they have no clue about can determine truth. As though some numb-skull on this site can just thumbs down the reality of things because they just do not like it. It is like the republican party who just decides there is no truth to scientific facts and rams it down some other idiots throat with a dollar bill attached. Have we gone so far in stupidity in this country? To be governed by men who hate thinkers, women and liberals just because they don’t want vote for their closed-minded horseshit any more? The truth can not be different from person to person. I know that is how you fucking spoiled dick-heads have had it for thirty years or so, but it must change or we are doomed by our own self-appointed false and non-scientific men. Fucking idiots. Lawyers and bean-counters and MBA’s all want to define the world from a shalolow and bottom line point of view. Most politicians are lawyers and visa versa. Keep doing what these ass-holes tell you and the country will be locked in litigation and dispute for the rest of time. keep hating the artists and intellectuals and voting for the money fuck heads and you will ruin what is left of this country.
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@Kenny. The US EPA apparently has scientists. Basically, the emissions numbers the Ohio EPA has been entertaining do not fall within the federal laws dictating the emissions a “minor” pollution source can have. Therefore, the US EPA is asking the permit application to be redone to reflect that it is a major source of pollution, and because of that redisignation, the US EPA also is requiring numbers for emissions of additional pollutant types that “minor” pollution sources do not have to reveal, but major sources do have to reveal, in order to meet federal clean air regulations.
Us citizens that are left in Cleveland have paid out enough for thieves and boondoggle projects. The Sports Palaces, Juvenile Detention Center, Ameritrust building,Corruption at City Hall, Cleveland Water Department,continuous lawsuits being placed against the city for Murder by Police,and the theft and deception keeps marching along like the Energizer Bunny. How do they expect the citizens to continue to finance projects that have been proven worthless and not cost efficient at all ? The North East Ohio Regional Sewer District and the tens of millions that POOF disappeared and no one has gone to jail. Fire the political hires that never took a Civil Service Test. Fire all the nail painting and filing people at the Water and CPP building along with the nasty ass attituded thugs that “work” there. Use the damned Browns Stadium for more than 8 events a frigging year. And dont forget WE THE PEOPLE just paid the Browns $5,000,000.00 for “improvements”. 5 million in improvements on a NEW Stadium ? Give me a break.
Thanks Maude: I appreciate the response. Makes sense to me.
Thanks Maude: The previous comments which I made must have been in violation of someone’s censorship rules. I think I know which words were not allowed but I am not sure. I have been flagged by others and then just thrown off all together.
Bingo. Now let me try another: The Columbus Dispatch and the Wolfe dudes.